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#1 kaminichuan

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 01:15 AM

As the title suggests, hiring people to play the game exclusively to manage issues.
This could even be done with established, trusted players and rewarded with item mall points as opposed to monetary expense for gravity depending on results of their employment and hours they play in-game.

This involves:
-Ability to kick (out of maps / removed from game), ban, etc.
-A pop-up message box that can be sent to players as warnings/communication if needed.
-Invisibility/anonymity for obvious reasons: questioning/bothering/attempting to make relationships for personal benefit/etc.

This would solve many pressing issues which harm playing experience, some listed below with proposed suggestions.

-illegal vending
removed items/zulie, closed vend, kicked from game, etc depending on seriousness of exploit

-zulie spammers

removed items/zulie, kick+ban

-union war leeching/exploiting
leechers would be kicked at reasoned discretion: I heard rumors calanor actually came ingame and did this once, any confirmation on this?
decreased union point count if kicked, war quest timed out/ removed when kicked

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Just my fantasy on how an mmorpg should function; having very clear and active management/support not only with off-game forums, but also in-game.
Something that would scare exploiters so everyone can play safe and happy.
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Posted 26 October 2010 - 03:29 AM

lol i like the idea, id do it for no item mall points lol, pick me pick me!
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Posted 26 October 2010 - 06:55 AM

-union war leeching/exploiting
leechers would be kicked at reasoned discretion: I heard rumors calanor actually came ingame and did this once, any confirmation on this?
decreased union point count if kicked, war quest timed out/ removed when kicked



yea, he did that.. i was on UW that time and he summoned a lot of jelly beans a few times too for fg/rc during that time, as we were all bored bcoz jo/ar ppl got only a few active players.. and we camped them below their spawn.. :(
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Posted 26 October 2010 - 06:59 AM

Has been recommended by the start of ZS problem about 4 years ago. It will not happen since Gravity doesn't support or probably can support such features for members.
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#5 kaminichuan

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 09:11 PM

It will not happen since Gravity doesn't support or probably can support such features for members.


I wouldn't imagine it being that hard to support, seeing as how calanor etc can already do these kind of things in game (administrative features are possible).
Try to offer an alternative or how to expand on suggestions, or how things can be changed to make them work rather than just pessimism.

(I don't know what GM actually stands for, game moderator? general moderator? I'll just call them mods)
My point is if mods were to be consistently active in-game sorting out stuff a lot of problems wouldn't be there.

I understand that they have a lot of stuff to do and can't afford to spend the rest of their spare time in-game so I'm not going to suggest giving existing mods the extra responsibility,
Which is why looking into a recruitment process or promotion/power-up for lower rank mods would make everyone happy (except for exploiters).


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woops I sound a little offensive up there, didn't mean it that way xD

Edited by kaminichuan, 26 October 2010 - 09:12 PM.

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#6 YukiChan

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 09:59 PM

I like the idea, although you gave "community GMs" way too much abusive power
(in further text I will call these CGMs)

even with way more limited powers it is still risky

bad things happen

people get hacked, their relatives or friends abuse their accounts etc
(I've already seen situations like that)

the only way to have some control and minimize risk of those new CGM powers abuse is to have them sitting next to you in your office

even that can't be 100% abuse proof

there have been way too many cases of leaked (beta) software from many companies

I have seen so many power abuse by GMs on illegal servers

someone with GM powers can make huge damage in less than a second
(and we all "love" rollbacks)


as for their anonimity:
(example from movie After Hours)

- The fare is $1.50.

- What?

- Fare went up to $1.50 as of midnight.

- You're kidding.

- Look...

- I've got 97 cents.

- No.

- It's raining like mad out there.

- No.

- Would you just give me a break?
I really just wanna go home
.

- I'm sorry, I can't do that.
I could lose my job.


- Who would know, exactly?

- I could go to a party, get drunk,
talk to someone. Who knows?



anyway, your idea still sounds interesting

one of older proposals was to give to some players very limited powers
- to give them option to "teleport" spammers to some special empty map (it would be on "8th" planet so scrolls wouldn't work)
even such almost nonabusable skill could still be abused (+ I don't think such "GM" account type exists in current client)

Edited by YukiChan, 26 October 2010 - 10:03 PM.

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#7 kaminichuan

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 10:55 PM

even with way more limited powers it is still risky

bad things happen

people get hacked, their relatives or friends abuse their accounts etc
(I've already seen situations like that)

the only way to have some control and minimize risk of those new CGM powers abuse is to have them sitting next to you in your office

even that can't be 100% abuse proof
shortened to save space


ohh ok that's really descriptive, I guess that's a worry I didn't consider; I only think of things in the creative or management side rather than a lot of the technical details :(

but even so every organization faces risk, but with risk there's always opportunities that are just as important, we shouldn't let risk restrict everything, especially when it comes to something as fundamental as human resources, there are always things that we wont be able to do with just automated stuff (which has bugs and other problems anyway). But the risk shouldn't be impossible to deal with, after all how did they recruit current workers?

People from the community that have stood out and would be worth giving a more active role in managing ROSE would be one source, if this source as difficult to trust that's another issue..

But it's clear that you've had a lot of experience in these matters and in throughout ROSE in general so I won't argue too much, your response is really really appreciated yukichan!! http://forums.warppo...tyle_emoticons/default/happy.gif
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#8 gEddeh

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 01:34 AM

It would be difficult because players may abuse their authority...
There are alot of rotten apple's in this game D:

Would be awesome though ^^
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Posted 06 November 2010 - 09:30 PM

make me gm,because i play 7/24 so you will gonna have a good one for watch :P
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Posted 07 November 2010 - 11:47 AM

make me gm,because i play 7/24 so you will gonna have a good one for watch :P


Whahahahha you first threathen me (Yesterday, 10:03PM) in a Personal Message on this forum, just because you do not like me or whatever?
And then, 27 minutes later (Yesterday, 10:30PM), you say you make a good GameMaster.

Sorry but I think you seriously need to re-think your life.
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Edited by gEddeh, 07 November 2010 - 11:59 AM.

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 08:17 PM

i was joking you mad bro? lol
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#12 gEddeh

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 01:05 AM

i was joking you mad bro? lol


Not mad, I'm actually laughing because of your stupidity -_-
So was I when I told everyone to give up voting for the backshield contest and just let RagingHormones win, I was joking.

Edited by gEddeh, 08 November 2010 - 01:05 AM.

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 08:10 AM

its funny how he backs ups now after he talked trash lol
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Posted 08 November 2010 - 08:16 AM

Oh god these last few posts made me lol.

Anyway. GM powers sound cool, bro. Would never happen though.
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Posted 08 November 2010 - 08:40 AM

i was joking you mad bro? lol



u will fail we hunt u ass down at a pvp zone big mount dirty

U mad bro?

You're one to talk.
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Posted 08 November 2010 - 06:11 PM

You're one to talk.

<you also mad bro?<
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Posted 10 November 2010 - 11:48 AM

make me gm,because i play 7/24 so you will gonna have a good one for watch :D


The same guy told me I have no life. True story, check my profile for the proof.
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#18 gEddeh

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Posted 11 November 2010 - 02:49 AM

Ah yes you mean this part:

Viceking Nov 03 2010 03:30 PM
you want a trophy for that get a life

Really sad...
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#19 DayNine

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Posted 11 November 2010 - 10:09 AM

I don't think this would happen, it would cause more headaches for real GMs than it would solve.
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