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[Maithrie]

Sometimes sera doesnt cast PK when I stand next to it... why?

[DrAzzy]

Please provide much more information. 

 

Why is sera casting PK on you?

 

Are you manually commanding it to, or are you using an AI that autocasts it?

 

If using autocast AI, what AI?

What relevant settings are you using?

 

What situations is this happening in?

[Maithrie]

I am using the AI. I put useserapainkiller to idle. It only casts it when I stand 1 cell away (That was the only change I made to the azzyconfig). Sometimes it doesn't cast anything. So I am forced to walk around it till it activates, I'm sure that doesn't do anything either. I tested all this in ET.

Another question: is there a formula for the damage reduced for pk? I tried abit of et and it was really good, but I kept dying quite abit at bosses. I guess I had high expectations for the MvPs to just hit constant 1s.

Edited by Maithrie, 09 November 2013 - 02:23 AM.

[DrAzzy]

I get very different behavior - when I do that (using AzzyAI 1.52), the homun moves to within range, and casts painkiller on me (the skill has 1 cell range, so it has to move into range to cast it).

 

Sometimes it fails to cast, and my logic isn't very good at detecting that; in those cases it won't recast for a minute (because it thinks it cast it on you successfully!)

 

 

 

PK makes the normal mobs hit 1's, not the really big stuff. 

 

It's like a -800ish (depending on homun level) subtraction type reduction, applied after almost everything (including race/ele resists!)

Edited by DrAzzy, 09 November 2013 - 02:41 AM.

[Maithrie]

Another thing, cause you have pk, would you recommend disabling poison mist? I mean if your doing TI/ET you would be moving around a lot, so poison mist would be kinda useless.

Oh yeah, not sure if this is a bug, but sometimes my sera casts painkiller immediately after the first cast
Thnx for the clarification. Your knowledge prevails all.

Edited by Maithrie, 09 November 2013 - 03:04 AM.

[DrAzzy]

I would disable mist when doing ET. Mist+PK is great is afk/semiafk leveling, and probably a few other cases, but not in ET. ET, i'd turn off mist, and just have it painkiller me + party. 

[Maithrie]

also what do I do to change the range between me and sera or is it already set to default?

for the painkiller cast on friends, when would I use the painkillersave option? should I set it to 'true' when I enable the painkillerfriend.

 

Followstayback = 2

Idlewalkdistance = 4

 

what do I need to change to so that Pain Killer will work effectively?

Edited by Maithrie, 10 November 2013 - 02:15 AM.

[DrAzzy]

Those settings should work fine? 

 

When the homun determines that it's time to recast painkiller, it will automatically move into range - those distance settings are not relevant. 

 

I don't think you need to change anything to make painkiller work effectively - I use it with those same settings (and also SuperPassive so it's not getting distracted doing anything other than PK). Occasionally it misses a cast because you're moving or something's posbugged and it doesn't notice this; as I noted above. When this happens, I manually command it to cast painkiller on me. As I said above, I intend to try to improve detection of these missed casts in 1.53.

 

Per documentation, painkillerfriends forgets who you've told it to cast painkiller on when you teleport, vap/recall or change maps. If you want it to remember who it's keeping PK up on in these cases (like if you're in ET (moving between floors counts) or gwinging in a party) you need painkillerfriendsave on. The downside of this is that it will keep remembering these people to PK, which may be distracting in town/etc

 

 

[Maithrie]

Sometimes it is out of range, and doesn't cast straight away unless I walk next to it or if I get Gwinged/teleported.

oh yeah it wont let me cast PK on myself, unless i am next to it.

Edited by Maithrie, 11 November 2013 - 08:38 PM.

[DrAzzy]

Sometimes it is out of range, and doesn't cast straight away unless I walk next to it or if I get Gwinged/teleported.

If it misses it'

 

oh yeah it wont let me cast PK on myself, unless i am next to it.

 

I have reproduced these issues (I was unable to do so earlier because I hadn't realized I wasn't using 1.52), this represents a huge regression in 1.52 - these problems were not present in earlier versions of AzzyAI. 

 

I am in the process of posting a fix for this. 

 

I am very sorry for the slow response to this issue - I was sitting at my computer thinking you were crazy because I couldn't reproduce the issue, not realizing I for some reason hadn't updated to my own latest version. 

 

I'm really surprised there weren't more people complaining about this too - this was a major regression that made one of the most important features of AzzyAI unusable. 

[Thallein]

Hey Azzy, quick question.

 

I've been looking around to see if there is a way to erase Sera's "friends list" (the people she pain killer'd before), but I have had no luck finding anything.

 

Is there a way to erase it or do we gotta use /hoai + vaporize + Call homun to keep it from doing anything?

Thanks in advance!

[DrAzzy]

Delete the =3 lines from A_Friends.lua in your USER_AI folder.

[Thallein]

Thanks Azzy!

[Thallein]

Azzy, the lines only have =1

 

[Thallein]

Disregard. it worked.