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#1 Leash

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 07:38 AM

Hi,

 

this is Leash, welcome to my "Warlords need to be nerfed" topic.

 

Dont get me wrong, i mean those no resistances-wls were all fun and game, but now everyone seems to gear up and you see alot more of em.

 

Range and Duration of their -_- is too damn high.

I think noone disagrees with that, unless its a WL itself.

 

Also their Overbearing Clamour skill STILL silences totems.

I wrote a ticket about this in March, last responce i got was from our man Danny (in August):

The development team has been informed of the skill, what it does and how it affects players. However, it is still up to them to decide on the changes after testing it themselves. While we do not guarantee the skill will be updated, we would like to ask you follow the patch notes and forum update notes for changes to this skill as that is where it will be mentioned. If you have additional questions, please submit a new ticket and we will be happy to assist you further.

 

So here is something for you to forward, VMOD :thx:


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#2 MacMad

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 08:28 AM

Hi Leash,

this is Macmad.

Welcome to our first meeting of reformed alcoholics

 

I agree.


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Posted 13 November 2013 - 08:56 AM

Sure, 16 seconds hush is too long, but 14 Seconds Terms of Service is not too long! In hush you can still run, in Terms of Service u cant move. Hush is pretty much useless at PVE and what about Terms of Service? Is it useless too? You see the difference, Leash?

Now explain me how great is your idea!


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#4 PorroLoko

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 09:10 AM

lol sleash u push Terms of Service in 0.5 seg and 2 AoE and used 2 skill more and push back Terms of Service and u are QQing for wls?? lolllllllllll :blahblah:


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#5 Leash

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 09:13 AM

Sure, 16 seconds hush is too long, but 14 Seconds Terms of Service is not too long! In hush you can still run, in Terms of Service u cant move. Hush is pretty much useless at PVE and what about Terms of Service? Is it useless too? You see the difference, Leash?

Now explain me how great is your idea!

 

Okay lets see:

  • Overbearing Clamor also slows
  • OC comes 99% of the time hand in hand with being rooted so your "you can still run" argument is invalid

Differences between Terms of Service and OC (and well, pretty much the same for Terrified Scream)

  • OC is instant, Terms of Service takes 2 seconds to cast.
  • OC has a radius of TWENTYONE meters with 16 targets *correct me if I'm wrong*, Terms of Service has a radius of 10 meters with 7 targets.
  • Terms of Service - as it is nowadays - works in ticks (we had our nerf before), so every class with dashes or charges can just escape in between those ticks, sometimes even classes without.
  • You can even use instant casts in between ticks, such as Overbearing Clamor (happens almost everytime i managed to Terms of Service a WL)

Finally: Who cares about PVE. Use an AOE char like everyone else to farm.

 

 

lol sleash u push Terms of Service in 0.5 seg and 2 AoE and used 2 skill more and push back Terms of Service and u are QQing for wls?? lolllllllllll :blahblah:

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Edited by Leash, 13 November 2013 - 09:19 AM.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 09:27 AM

Their skills are OP, yet the players behind the warlord do get the kills. Warlords are just there to hush & root everyone and end up killed. It doesn't really matter if they are geared or not, aslong they manage to root and hush. And thats were it gets annoying.

In my opinion they are great tools to push through a team and they actually get things moving, compared with the usual ''20 casters vs 20 casters AOE drop contest''.

The root / hush combination pretty much gets everyone killed and therefore should be nerfed. Both skills have an insane radius and for any class without a dash it is insanely hard to avoid. When rooted, you can fight back, when hushed you can run. But the AOE hush always come with a root. 
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We're in week 75(random guess) for the druid/elem rebalance, so the warlord/berserker rebalance will come in about 5 years. 


Edited by Fudd, 13 November 2013 - 09:32 AM.

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#7 Leash

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 09:34 AM

Their skills are OP, yet the players behind the warlord do get the kills.
In my opinion they are great tools to push through a team and they actually get things moving, compared with the usual ''20 casters vs 20 casters AOE drop contest''.

 

Well i have been killed by wls before, when there is noone around to ks them they do have plenty of time to do that (if geared).

 

Ofc i agree that it was a good move to make them more usefull in pvp and i surely enjoy a WL on my team.

Noone wants them to be nerfed back to being useless HP buffers, i only want their root / hush radius and duration reduced a little.

And i do believe that this is a reasonable request.


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Posted 13 November 2013 - 09:37 AM

Hush hush hush baby~
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Posted 13 November 2013 - 09:49 AM

Druid stun means dead for everyone too.

To root and hush you need to cast 2x Skills NOT ONE.

When u stun or Terms of Service its just 1 skill. Then you can use your aoe and kill everyone.

Your argument for the farm character is invalid. I can say the same - if you think WL is so overpowered, go play it!


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Posted 13 November 2013 - 09:52 AM

Blacksteel must be eliminated. 


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#11 Leash

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 09:55 AM

Druid stun means dead for everyone too.

To root and hush you need to cast 2x Skills NOT ONE.

When u stun or Terms of Service its just 1 skill. Then you can use your aoe and kill everyone.

Your argument for the farm character is invalid. I can say the same - if you think WL is so overpowered, go play it!

 

I surely wont do a wl, even tho its quite popular atm due to reasons mentioned here, but if i did i assure you it would be op.

oh wow so you have to use 2 instant skills instead of 1 with 2 seconds casttime, bulletproof argumentation right there.

 

Sure, the radius of druid stun might be a little bit huge aswell, but this isn't about them, make your own QQ topic^^.


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Posted 13 November 2013 - 10:30 AM

hmmm i think all stuns and perma CC ´s for like 10-17 sec´s are op...


Edited by RoxCore, 13 November 2013 - 10:31 AM.

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#13 MacMad

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 10:37 AM

simple solution:

hush -> removes bind

bind -> removes hush

 

so u have to decide if u want them to stay or disable their skills

 

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ps.: give perma AM for PB


Edited by MacMad, 13 November 2013 - 10:39 AM.

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#14 WhateverHeSaid

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:10 PM

It's like that big black guy was made to rape all casters... especially defiler (I have one, I know it).

 

My thought on battlefield when ...
... see any class -> try cast,-_- him.
... see a wl -> My legs... where are you? run for our life!!!

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 01:18 PM

I played WL and I agree with Leash. Infact, remove hush from OC and just make it a slow, because honestly that's the only reason I used it for! Heck, Gravity can even delete that skill if they want. That would make battlefield more interesting. Right now WLs with that hush are like prots in the beggining of s2: when prots spammed heals it was like they didn't take any dmg; when WLs hush they literally don't take any dmg and then they just sit calm and pew pew untill they kill. Lame! Where's the fun in that? That's not a warlord, it's a troll lord!


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Posted 13 November 2013 - 01:33 PM

 make single target   :wall:

i think wl is nice , the problem is , we got more mages than phsk classses .

 

 


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Posted 13 November 2013 - 01:57 PM

Lame![/font] Where's the fun in that? That's not a warlord, it's a troll lord!


Bahahahaha

Ok ok, WL's aren't that OP, but that hush has to be fixed somehow, either shorter distance or make it single target, (OR) make it so that it has casting time and not instant

as of right now, any idiot can charge aoe hush/bind then die, while an aoe class comes up and make everyone look foolish
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Posted 13 November 2013 - 02:12 PM

they are pretty beeeeeeeeefy! makes me wanna level mine up i made a few years ago, love that bludgeon and shield lol


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Posted 13 November 2013 - 02:15 PM

i missed the aoe fear 


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Posted 13 November 2013 - 02:44 PM

So you want to take the only two skills warlords have that allows them to compete in pvp and nerf them. Lets leave them with a 1 second stun so 10 casters can stand in a group with a radiant and be unkillable. Lets not nerf adamant mind, stealing weapon, the 15 druid stuns, totems,aoe's or defensive buffs. Let's nerf something cause casters arn't smart enough to spread out. Dumb the game down just a lil more.


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#21 Leash

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 02:47 PM

So you want to take the only two skills warlords have that allows them to compete in pvp and nerf them. Lets leave them with a 1 second stun so 10 casters can stand in a group with a radiant and be unkillable. Lets not nerf adamant mind, stealing weapon, the 15 druid stuns, totems,aoe's or defensive buffs. Let's nerf something cause casters arn't smart enough to spread out. Dumb the game down just a lil more.

 

you know with my elem, i try my best not to move near group to be able to unhush people - still that is easier said then done with that range.

 

again, just a little reduction of range and duration, no taking away of skills drama queen :-*


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Posted 13 November 2013 - 03:11 PM

Ok, this will be passed on to the Gravity Team.


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Posted 13 November 2013 - 03:55 PM

Ok, this will be passed on to the Gravity Team.

gravity team? which team btw? because korean gravity just sold the rights to the game to american gravity. not sure who passing this info on to....ANYWAYS

 

Make hush and root overwrite each other


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Posted 13 November 2013 - 04:43 PM

gravity team? which team btw? because korean gravity just sold the rights to the game to american gravity. not sure who passing this info on to....ANYWAYS

 

Make hush and root overwrite each other

 

Is that why we havent seen Alteris around or anyone around? busy trying to figure out what to do now? oh wait.. learn from Russia!


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Posted 13 November 2013 - 04:51 PM

Haters.


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