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#1 GwenevereXOXO

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 01:00 AM

hello all

a question regarding viable rg solo/team builds.

i know that in a team overbrand is great cause our main job is to protect the wizards and healers. overbrand deals decent.damage and.knocks.them back, helping healers escape stunlock.

but i really dislike overbrand as a solo aoe skill, sibce it kocks everything back, making soloing take a much longer time. aldo separates the mob causing u to have to use mutliple overbrands.

so im wondering if there is another.viable aoe.build, have anybody tried using.maybe earthdrive as.main leveling skill? or what other skills.have u guys tried? what other aoe builds are there other than overbrand?
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#2 devaiah

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 02:04 AM

Use a +9 or higher elemental weapon depending on what mobs are there in TI so you can one shot them.. using multiple OBs doesn't occur if you have the right elemental weapon..


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#3 GwenevereXOXO

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 03:41 AM

ooo that's possibly the case for me. i haven't tried elemental spears. i usually just stick to hunting spear.

 

either way tho, are their other aoe builds? has anyone tried lvling using earth drive?


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#4 kasshin

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 06:47 AM

You have it the other way around... Overbrand is bad in parties because it separates mobs and they can't one shot them with Arrow Storm. Maybe it's okay in low TI but you're only there for 99-100 anyway, which is a really short time. You really should be soloing low TI if you have Overbrand though. Get sacrifice (really a must for ALL RGs) and keep squishies alive that way and only use Overbrand in emergencies and if you are great at aiming it towards walls.

 

For soloing on the other hand, Overbrand is great. Your logic isn't making any sense... if your first Overbrand doesn't kill the mob, wouldn't you need to do more Overbrands after that in any case regardless of the knockback? Here the knockback actually helps because lower ASPD or movement monsters will not attack you while you are on the Overbrand cooldown so you get a second or two to recover HP or reposition yourself.

 

The other AOE skills are generally not that effective. Just play tank / support in parties and solo with Overbrand.


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#5 GwenevereXOXO

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 07:14 PM

ah i get where u're coming from, yes overbrand is bad for killing monsters in ti, but i said it's great for keeping ppl alive, not for killing monsters. for example the straggler healer/wiz walking at the back of the group, getting mobbed. overbrand kicks the monsters back, so the healers are no longer stun locked and can escape.

 

as for why i think it's bad for soloing is cause, monsters spawn continuously. after u knocked a group backwards, another few have spawned in front of you in the time it takes the knocked back monsters to walk towards u again, there fore, u have to cast overbrand more times than say a RK has to use Ignition, since knights keeps the monsters stakced together (also, since it kicks everyhting back, it makes mobbing take a much longer time). This is only a real problem for the wallet for than anything. i find healing items much cheaper than sp items, so dun mind being completly mobbed all the time, but do mind having to use the skill more times than nesscesary, since it'll require me to spam strawberries, and they are so expensive.

 

but yea, the mian thing i do i just sac the healers and spam pumkings at the moment. was hoping for other aoe recommendations. Spear cannon aoe maybe? o.o dunno have to try it out.

 


Edited by GwenevereXOXO, 05 April 2014 - 07:15 PM.

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#6 Aizenath

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 08:19 PM

Spear cannon just works in a line in front of you so you would have to line up monsters to hit them, plus is not that strong, I haven't tried a cannon spear with it but even then I'm pretty sure it'd be weaker than OB.  I used to use moonslasher if monsters mobbed me quickly after OB as it sometimes stops them from moving and you can combo OB after that.  Like Kasshin said, the other AOE are not that effective, you can always use them to complement OB though.

If you don't have a rideword hat, get one, it'll help with the sp recovery and once you get shield spell  2 you can cast magnificat which will further help with sp.


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#7 GraydroZ

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 08:24 PM

I used to have Cannon spear and trust me it's much worse than Overbrand. Not only the damage is much weaker, but Cannon spear also cannot hit monsters at some positions far away from you, although you can cast Cannon spear but it hits nothing.

 

EDIT: This Youtube clip at 0:21-0:40 shows the missed hits of Cannon spear

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=O07JF4utQ0A


Edited by GraydroZ, 05 April 2014 - 08:31 PM.

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