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#1 Xarp

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 05:39 PM

We know that there is a large amount of dirty zeny floating around in classic that is why I have two solution to potentially solve this issue the first solution is to have all the zeny in-game wiped clean these does seem a bit extreme on the other hand the other option is to create another monetary system on-top of zeny that is similar in function but will be depending on WARPORTAL or whoever is in charge of Ragnarok Classic can become extremely difficult to exploit, the idea itself will create a fresh economy that can solve the current zeny issue, for example let say that a particular item cost roughly 17 million zeny but on the other hand it will also cost let say theoretically 17 thousand credit,gold etc... this is because the other monetary system is not as convoluted as the current zeny which is at the moment inflated. we can go a step farther make it impossible to earn zeny in the game replacing it with a new monetary system  this does not remove the current zeny flowing in the game but over time it should eliminate or drastically decrease the current amount of zeny in circulation which should solve the current problem, we can even go so far to shamelessly rename the new monetary system or new money once all current zeny are remove from the markey zeny once more!

 

There also another possible part to solving the issue once the new monetary system is in place it will be up to the player to ignore if not outright boycott the current zeny for the other monetary system.

 

I forgot to mention it should also be impossible to exchange the new monetary system with the current zeny.

 


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#2 AlmrOfAtlas

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 06:04 PM

There's really not a lot of 'dirty' zeny on Classic at all.

 

Also no. Our currency isn't convoluted, there's not really much of a problem with inflation at the moment (hell I'm seeing goddie bits in normal vend and Valk gear is stupidly cheap), you can easily cap out without buying things from vendors, and RO isn't RO without zeny. This is yet another proposed change that would completely ruin the whole concept of "Classic" RO.

 

Why not propose this for Renewal, if you must do so at all.


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 06:18 PM

I would also "cough" like to propose the same thing to renewal.

 

But  you are admiting there are dirty zeny within classic and since no one can pinpoint the exact amount within classic what may appear to be little maybe a whole lot more than it seem

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I do apologize if my assumption base on the few sources online seem exagerated but I do like ragnarok classic and would hate to see it go down in flames.

 

 


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#4 AlmrOfAtlas

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 06:35 PM

Classic's pop is too low for botting and RMT to amount to much more than large quantities of TI loot in and a few mats not found in GDun boxes appearing in vend, and personal botting to cap out for WoE.

 

Not sure there's even that much being RMT'd. Nothing game-breaking has reared its head in recent memory.

 

The dirty zeny on Classic is inconsequential to gameplay and server stability, unlike Renewal.


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 11:18 PM

Thank for the information, I feel relieve to hear you say that.


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Posted 12 April 2014 - 08:37 AM

I would also "cough" like to propose the same thing to renewal.

 

 

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but as I'm to understand your OP, you want to introduce a new currency in RO, making zeny obsolete, and eventually replace it with this new currency, example: gold? And, once the zeny has been replaced by the "gold" currency, change the name of the gold currency back to zeny?

 

If this is correct, then I say no. (Especially to the zeny wipe. Everyone knows that won't happen). As Almr said, there's not many problems in Classic, and we already have a few currencies in Renewal. Zeny, Malangdo coins/cans, Mora coins etc. And the currency that people will use more often than not, are items themselves. All your going to do with introducing another currency is possibly fix the zeny problem temporarily. And even that won't last long at all. It'll get inflated as fast as it gets introduced. And by the time you change it back to zeny, the "gold sellers" will already have a fresh stock of gold/new zeny to sell anyway. Besides, the only real problem with zeny is that there aren't enough zeny sinks. But this IMO is only a smaller problem  compared to the real issue. A lot of people (too many, IMO) know how to play the market, and greed drives the prices up on items. Look at Ragial.com. You can change the prices on there just by vending items at different prices. Lately, there's been a heavy flow of Silvervine boxes. The max went from 5.5mil yesterday to 5.4mil over-night because there's been people vending for 4.5mil. Likewise, you can raise prices by vending something like Silvervines, by vending at max limit. No one will by them at that price, but it will raise the prices in the game.

 

Personally, I like to hang on to items. I'll sell stuff to make money to buy gears and stuff, but you won't need to worry about the value of lets say strawberries if you have some. If the price of strawberries goes up to 10k tomorrow, you won't need to worry about it because you have what you need already. And hanging onto those kind of items will make you money while the prices inflate.


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#7 Xarp

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 03:21 PM

It only a suggestion but we already have another monetary system beside zeny that sell specific item's I dont see how if they can implement such they could not do it again.

 

Here another suggestion unlike the other two above this would be unofficial at it core and unlike the other two this can be done right know, we know monster drop specific item object etc, why not use one of the more commond drop most monster share for example jellopy as a intermediary tool for trade in fact it would create a rather interesting economy of course it does not have to be jellopy there are many more alternative option. But for the said suggestion to work the item in question cannot be bought with zeny meaning like anything else it will be up to the player base to see the idea through!


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Posted 12 April 2014 - 07:24 PM

We should trade in EDP, then drink heartily to newfound business partnerships.


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Posted 13 April 2014 - 10:29 AM

I agree, to our new if not fatal business partnership. (lol)

Joke aside it would have to be something extremely usefull or serve a daily function during the game in fact there are a few item on the top of my head (that because I have only just recently started playing Ragnarok Classic) that could possibly work but if such a think were to be decided maybe a poll would come in handy to gauge playerbase opinion or preference.


Edited by Xarp, 13 April 2014 - 10:46 AM.

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