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[spikexp]

According to its wiki page,
 

Spoiler

• When cast with Power-Thrust activated, damage becomes ( 1333.33 + 25 )%, for a total of 1358% damage. NOTE: 1333.33 is the round down to 2 digits from cart weight of 8000 / 6
• When cast with Maximum Power-Thrust activated, damage becomes ( 1333.33 + 100 )%, for a total of 1433% damage. NOTE: 1333.33 is the round down to 2 digits from cart weight of 8000 / 6
• Target's VIT and stun resistance will reduce the chance that the target will become stunned.
• Damage is reduced by target's DEF, VIT (unless otherwise noted, i.e. if the player is wielding an Ice Pick or Combat Knife) and other reduction gear.
• This is a melee skill - it is blocked by Safety Wall, although the chance to inflict stun will bypass Safety Wall.
• High Speed Cart Ram can miss based on the player's hit and the target's flee. However, when the skill "misses", a small damaged hit is still guaranteed from Weaponry Research. This means the player will always have a chance to stun their opponent whether their attack "misses" or deals full damage

Bypasses:

• Shield Reflect
• Guard
• Cicada Skin Shed
• Parry
• Energy Coat

Works/damage increases with:

• Ice Pick
• Combat Knife
• Endows (HSRC takes on the element of your weapon)
• +ATK cards/equipment
• STR, DEX, LUK
• ASPD (only for damage per second, DPS)
• Player's weapon ATK + Upgrades

Not compatible with:

• The Sign
• Shattering Strike
• Status weapons, including Sword/Mailbreakers
• ATK increasing equipment that is not raw ATK (i.e. Race Cards, Masquerade, Zealotus Mask)

So far, I've tried leveling with a whole lotta STR, VIT, and DEX just by HSCRing all the mobs. Fast EXP/min but burns supplies as well as zeny like hell.

1. Any more efficient way (supplies-wise) to level? Still a 7x MS and looking for alternatives. If possible, I don't want to reset my stats. Burning 1m zeny to hunt 100 Petites really hurts my wallet.

2. Tried +0 RWH, not proccing at all. HSCR coded not to proc HP/SP leech? Or any procs at all?

3. Say that Giant Axe is the best weapon for MvPing, will AK card serves better than ZB/Hillslion? Or would Pile Bunker + Shield outshine carded + enchanted Giant Axe?

[DrAzzy]

2. Cart ram, because of it being weird in a number of ways, very well may not proc 'regain damage dealt as hp/sp' effects. I haven't tested it. In any event, RWH isn't as impressive with single target skills.

[thatfool]

According to its wiki page,
 

Spoiler

• When cast with Power-Thrust activated, damage becomes ( 1333.33 + 25 )%, for a total of 1358% damage. NOTE: 1333.33 is the round down to 2 digits from cart weight of 8000 / 6
• When cast with Maximum Power-Thrust activated, damage becomes ( 1333.33 + 100 )%, for a total of 1433% damage. NOTE: 1333.33 is the round down to 2 digits from cart weight of 8000 / 6
• Target's VIT and stun resistance will reduce the chance that the target will become stunned.
• Damage is reduced by target's DEF, VIT (unless otherwise noted, i.e. if the player is wielding an Ice Pick or Combat Knife) and other reduction gear.
• This is a melee skill - it is blocked by Safety Wall, although the chance to inflict stun will bypass Safety Wall.
• High Speed Cart Ram can miss based on the player's hit and the target's flee. However, when the skill "misses", a small damaged hit is still guaranteed from Weaponry Research. This means the player will always have a chance to stun their opponent whether their attack "misses" or deals full damage

Bypasses:

• Shield Reflect
• Guard
• Cicada Skin Shed
• Parry
• Energy Coat

Works/damage increases with:

• Ice Pick
• Combat Knife
• Endows (HSRC takes on the element of your weapon)
• +ATK cards/equipment
• STR, DEX, LUK
• ASPD (only for damage per second, DPS)
• Player's weapon ATK + Upgrades

Not compatible with:

• The Sign
• Shattering Strike
• Status weapons, including Sword/Mailbreakers
• ATK increasing equipment that is not raw ATK (i.e. Race Cards, Masquerade, Zealotus Mask)

So far, I've tried leveling with a whole lotta STR, VIT, and DEX just by HSCRing all the mobs. Fast EXP/min but burns supplies as well as zeny like hell.

1. Any more efficient way (supplies-wise) to level? Still a 7x MS and looking for alternatives. If possible, I don't want to reset my stats. Burning 1m zeny to hunt 100 Petites really hurts my wallet.

2. Tried +0 RWH, not proccing at all. HSCR coded not to proc HP/SP leech? Or any procs at all?

3. Say that Giant Axe is the best weapon for MvPing, will AK card serves better than ZB/Hillslion? Or would Pile Bunker + Shield outshine carded + enchanted Giant Axe?

 

1. TI? 

3. Giant axe isnt the best weapon. pile bunker is definitely better than giant axe

[Zayaan]

1. Cart Revo is decent but you'll need a Rudolf or Witch Hat + Alarm Mask.

2. HP/SP leech does not work with HSCR sadly.

 

3. AK Card is better. +12 FS enchanted AK Giant Axe does 3-4k more damage compared to a +12 Pile Bunker.

Edited by Zayaan, 13 July 2014 - 11:38 PM.

[Rotine]

 

So far, I've tried leveling with a whole lotta STR, VIT, and DEX just by HSCRing all the mobs. Fast EXP/min but burns supplies as well as zeny like hell.

1. Any more efficient way (supplies-wise) to level? Still a 7x MS and looking for alternatives. If possible, I don't want to reset my stats. Burning 1m zeny to hunt 100 Petites really hurts my wallet.

 

 

If you wanna save zeny on supplies, you can just buy a guillotine and kill the demihumans in clock tower (high orc, bathory, joker).

 

You can cart revo or HSCR. I prefer cart revo though. You can say goodbye to SP problems when you do this. Thats how I leveled all my swordsman/merchant class until about 85-90.

 

If you have WPH+Alarm then you can stay in bathory dungeon without ever needing to bwing to restock supplies.

 

If you have a hard time tanking, you can bring a cranial shield (and CK if you have) then mob the bathories, switch to guillotine, then cart revo them all.

 

And if you love reporting bots...you will enjoy the bathory dungeon 

 

Of course you can just go to TI if you want. 

[spikexp]

1. i don't like relying on TI around 7x :/ i've tried doing cart revo on goats, but it burns more supplies than usual, because the mobs ain't dying from one or two hits (barely reach ~1,5k damage), and for me, it seems hard to keep all the mobs to be in the range of aoe, i keep missing a lot of mobs that ain't got pushed left /wah

2. i see, i'll drop my RWH for now then

3. i need more input about this... since from what i understand, racial/elemental cards won't work with HSCR. does boss protocol works differently with how racial/elemental cards work?

thanks for the replies

[kasshin]

Usually you use cart revo on aggro mobs so they all group together. Endowed weapon helps a lot, and I'm assuming you already filled your cart to the max? You definitely need to be spamming some kind of HP pots. For SP you can use something like earth deleter armor.

[stoenr]

HSCR is aspd based so having a bunch of AGI helps out like you wouldn't believe.  Unfortunately it is very expensive to level up this way but it is the single fastest dps skill in the game there is if u can afford it. A pile bunker is the best weapon but a giant axe will work until u can use a pile bunker.  Endowing your weapon according to the monster will help out also and remember to keep your cart at 8000 weight.

[johnnycakes]

Cart Revo takes some getting used to, but I strongly recommend it.

 

When you use it, the mob moves toward the left. If you can mob them up toward a wall, the mob stays put and you can spam CR.

If you're cart is full, it will increase your damage.

[spikexp]

Cart Revo takes some getting used to, but I strongly recommend it.
 
When you use it, the mob moves toward the left. If you can mob them up toward a wall, the mob stays put and you can spam CR.
If you're cart is full, it will increase your damage.

I've used cart revo for lower leveling, and now that it can't even two shots mobs, it's hard to keep up with the amount of aggresive mobs.

Maybe if I were to do cart revos for leveling, I need to tweak my gears further to stack more ATK.

[johnnycakes]

I've used cart revo for lower leveling, and now that it can't even two shots mobs, it's hard to keep up with the amount of aggresive mobs.

Maybe if I were to do cart revos for leveling, I need to tweak my gears further to stack more ATK.

 

I use a +9 Hurricane Fury iwth a Zipperbear card and two fighting spirits.

 

There's also a Heavy Metaling card that will boost damage by 50%, but increase the SP consumption. Goes into a foot gear.

I've never used the card.

 

No matter what the monster is, I was doing about 2k - 2.75k to monsters in the low TI.

I have thousands of Mora Mandarin's that I use for SP recovery.