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[dude]

not sure if there is a thread like this, but wondering for crit mvping what is better assuming 193 aspd can be achieved with both.  wondering whether to put 2 in a chakram or 2 ak, or perhaps 1 of each.

[Tofu]

AK should be better, if you're gonna be stacking a lot of other crit damage effects, like Fatal FAW, sapha set, chakram + handcuffs combo, etc.

[dude]

so, AK only if stacking lots of other crit gear, or if stacking other crit gear then aunoe?  just asking cuz you didn't specify clearly.  thanks.

[hmc317]

AK better than aunoe only if you have high weapon + equip attack,
because AK only effects weapon + equip attack

aunoe is better than AK if you have low weapon + equip attack,
because aunoe effects total crit damage.

[DrAzzy]

AK card modifies WATK and EATK only, while Aunoe modifies SATK as well. 

 

HOWEVER, because a crit sin will often have a large number of +% crit damage effects (which stack additively with eachother), it's possible - and in fact quite easy, thanks to the mora set - for the AK card to be better.

 

Let's take the case of 2 AK cards and no other +% damage vs boss effects. 

 

For the sake of example, we'll assume that SATK is equal to WATK+EATK (this is likely not the case, but you'd need to calc this yourself). That means the ratio between the two is 2:1 

 

50% / [(WATK+EATK+SATK)/(WATK+EATK)] = 25% increase in damage

 

For the Aunoe card, where there are other effects of the same type, we can calculate the increase in damage - here X is the sum of all other +% damage with critical attack effects. 

 

(1+40%+X)/(1+X)-1  

 

Ex, with no other effects, X=0, (1+0.4+0)-1 = 40% - as you'd expect. 

 

But with the 40% crit damage from mora set, X=0.4, so (1+0.4+0.4)/(1.4)-1= 28%

 

 

The weakness in these calculations, of course, is that I just assumed that SATK = EATK+WATK (which is a decent assumption for genetics, but might not be for GX) - see http://irowiki.org/wiki/ATK

 

 

Edited by DrAzzy, 15 July 2014 - 11:57 AM.

[Yugacky]

Moreover, EDP won't be applied to status ATK and status ATK will be pretty small part of your ATK.

This fact makes Aunoe cards advantage even smaller for GX.

So, 2 AK cards are better especially with Chakram since it has high Crit damage bonus.

 

If you have 2 Megs and don't want to use EDP? Go for Aunoe cards damn rich man.