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#1 Alaska

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 11:20 AM

So... it's been a good while since I've played, so the answer(s) may be blatantly obvious but searching the forums/Google has done me no good.

I have three homunculus:
Filir > Sera
Amistr > Dieter
Vanilmirth 

I recently mutated the Amistr, and once it became a Dieter it stopped using Bulwark/Blood Lust unless I manually cast them. My Sera, on the otherhand, casts all her Filir skills just fine. The Vani is also casting skills properly.

 

I have these current settings active:

 

AmiBulwarkLevel: 5
UseDefensiveBuff: Idle (I tried ASAP as well)
UseOffensiveBuff: Idle (I tried ASAP as well)

OldHomunType: Amistr (although I figure this may be a problem for my other homunculi, the Sera at least)

I've gone through the settings and I can't see any that I may have overlooked so, how can I go about fixing this?

I should mention my Amistr was casting skills properly prior to mutation.

 


Edited by Alaska, 22 July 2014 - 11:20 AM.

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#2 DrAzzy

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 12:51 PM

That should work, especially if it was casting them before evolution, so you know it was set to use them (If it stops using pre-S buffs when changed to homun S, that means OldHomunType is not set correctly). I'm not sure what to say. Are you running the config tool from the right location (you need to use it from USER_AI, not running a copy of it located somewhere else)? Could it be UAC issues? (the test for this would be to change some setting that would be really obvious, just so you can see whether or not the game can see the settings you're changing). 

 

Make sure you're not setting OldHomunType in H_Extra (for example, with one of the examples on the website for handling multiple homuns with different OldHomunType). 


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Posted 22 July 2014 - 01:30 PM

That should work, especially if it was casting them before evolution, so you know it was set to use them (If it stops using pre-S buffs when changed to homun S, that means OldHomunType is not set correctly). I'm not sure what to say. Are you running the config tool from the right location (you need to use it from USER_AI, not running a copy of it located somewhere else)? Could it be UAC issues? (the test for this would be to change some setting that would be really obvious, just so you can see whether or not the game can see the settings you're changing). 

 

Make sure you're not setting OldHomunType in H_Extra (for example, with one of the examples on the website for handling multiple homuns with different OldHomunType). 

 

OldHomunType was set to Filir (for the Sera) before I mutated the Amistr, so I guess that is probably the culprit. However, if I fix this issue, will my Sera stop using Filir skills instead? Or do I need to constantly switch AIs depending on what I'm using? There's no option to set it to vani, so I'm guessing that one will be fine once mutated regardless.

Would try it out now but I'm in class so I can't readily access things 'til I'm on break in a few hours.


Edited by Alaska, 22 July 2014 - 01:31 PM.

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#4 DrAzzy

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 06:53 AM

To address the problem of different homuns needing different OldHomunType settings, see http://www.drazzy.com/ai/faq.shtml - that has some examples of how to do it. Option 2 is just about what you want. 

 

AzzyAI can detect homuns that were changed from Vani's (you can try to get the skill attack range for skills - but that only works for skills with range > 1, because if the homun doesn't have the skill, it returns 1, not 0 or -1 like one would expect.


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Posted 08 August 2014 - 10:42 AM

I am facing the same exact problem with my Sera which evolved from Amistr. Before I changed to Homun S, I would use Bulwark all the time, and now I have to manually cast that and Blood Lust. Just wondering if there was anything I could do regarding it. My old homun is Amistr as it should be. 


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Posted 08 August 2014 - 01:14 PM

If OldHomunType is set to Amistr, it should use the skills just like before. 

 

Can you check AAIStartH.txt (located in your RO folder) and post it's contents here, and check that the "last modified" date that AAIStartH reports matches when you last saved the config?


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Posted 08 August 2014 - 01:24 PM

I am facing the same exact problem with my Sera which evolved from Amistr. Before I changed to Homun S, I would use Bulwark all the time, and now I have to manually cast that and Blood Lust. Just wondering if there was anything I could do regarding it. My old homun is Amistr as it should be. 

 

I fixed mine with Azzy's advice, old homunc was stuck on filir but I managed to manually fix it by following http://www.drazzy.com/ai/faq.shtml. You can fidnd it under "What if I have multiple homuns on one computer and need different configurations for them?" to be exact.

 

( thanks by the way, Azzy. I hadn't noticed your post til some days later and didn't wanna bump my thread up again heh. )


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Posted 10 August 2014 - 03:51 AM

You're right Alaska. Although mine showed Amitsr, I changed it to something else and then changed it back to Amitsr it started working again.


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