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[Selume]

Well I play a lot of games and the only one where the lag kills me its in RO, I never needed any kind of anti lag program so I dont really know any. Any suggestion?

 

Thanks

Edited by Selume, 25 July 2014 - 10:00 AM.

[Izzy1]

Umm. I suggest either moving to a house next to the Warpportal Office, using their WiFi or upgrading your internet.

 

However, if you are struggling at the moment, it appears that iRO has had some DDoS attacks recently so I expect that to clear up soon.

[Alicia]

Are people still using WTFast or whatever?

[Inubashiri]

If you're computer literate enough and know how to use a registry editor you can fix a little bit of that without anti-lag, but if your ping to the Gravity servers is bad to begin with this solution is not for you and can make it worse in some cases.

 

I don't recommend this if you don't know how to use registry editor:

 

http://us.battle.net...opic/5578595314

[Viri]

delete system 32

[DrAzzy]

First, use the Leatrix latency fix. (google it). No harm in using it, and it may help. Some people experience dramatic improvement with it, but most see little to no difference. 

 

 

Next, you need to determine what kind of lag you have. 

 

While lagging, does the mouse lag? When you rotate the camera angle, does it rotate smoothly? If these fully client-side things lag, it's a local machine lag, not network or server lag. You need to fix the problem on your computer that's causing RO to run slowly - we can help you if that's the case. 

 

Also, lately, eden group and the TI maps have been experiencing server lag during peak time, particularly with homunculus out. If you only lag on these maps, or if the lag seems to be linked to whether you have a merc/homun out, this is server lag, and all you can do is complain to gravity about it. 

 

 

Failing that, it's network lag - but is it your wifi network, your router, or something in the larger internet?

 

 

RO is very intolerant of poor network performance, and connections which appear to be okay on other games (due to the games being smart enough to hide the effects of lag - RO doesn't do that) may still cause problems for RO. 

 

See the instructions on these forums for generating a tracert, and do that - it's important to generate the trace when you've confirmed that the game is lagging. The first line is your router. The pings there should be no higher than 1ms - anything higher indicates a problem with your local network or router (if you're on wifi, 95% chance it's your wifi - test it using a wired connection). The second line is the closest part of your ISP's infrastructure (sometimes this is the cable modem, sometimes something further upstream). 

 

If the first few lines of the trace looks okay, then a performance proxy may fix it - and in some cases can make a huge difference (I would have quit years ago without discovering this; RO is unplayable on Comcast in Boston and the surrounding area without a performance proxy)

 

 

Lowerping and WTFast are the two authorized ones - these both have free trials, which let you see whether a performance proxy will even help you. 

 

 

 

If you're technically savvy, you can use your own linux server, assuming it's located somewhere that gets a better connection to gravity's servers (Amazon EC2 micro instances are great for this - they qualify for free tier too) for this. A "naive" performance proxy that proxies all traffic would violate the RO terms of service, because it would obscure your IP address - you need to only proxy connections on port 4500, which is what RO uses for communication with the game servers (you can see this when using LP/WTFast - the login is noticably sluggish compared to everything else). That is what I use for a performance proxy -  I use plink to create the tunnel to the proxy server (drazzy.com - the same micro instance that the site runs on - this is just an SSH tunnel), and then redirect outgoing connections from ragexe.exe on port 4500 into the tunnel using either ProxyCAP (works on all windows, reliably, not free) or WideCAP (free, works on 7 and earlier only, incompatible with IE11, so RO won't patch unless you downgrade to IE10, and occasionally it goes bad and has to reinstall, and it breaks Chrome's auto-update). 

 

 

Do NOT use any commercial proxy service for this other than WTFast or LowerPing - they will probably proxy everything, putting your account at risk of suspension. 

Edited by DrAzzy, 25 July 2014 - 12:17 PM.

[Inubashiri]

leatrix doesn't set TcpNoDelay though, this will require a registry edit.  Though technically the development Ren and I do should be disabling the Nagle algorithm anyways if I recall so leatrix might be enough.

[mikeberserkr]

This. got buried but i still use this even now

 

http://forums.warppo...program-part-2/

Edited by mikeberserkr, 25 July 2014 - 01:36 PM.

[Alicia]

I take my tech support from WarpPortal Forums.

 

Like a boss.

 

 

[GreenIvy]

I always think that there are a lot of people from RO player base are very tech savy, some of them are professional work in the fields. To some extent they are more capable than kro dev team.

[monica12314]

I'm from Asia and WTFast work like wonder.

[Razzez]

Lowerping and WTFast are the two authorized ones - these both have free trials, which let you see whether a performance proxy will even help you. 

Do NOT use any commercial proxy service for this other than WTFast or LowerPing - they will probably proxy everything, putting your account at risk of suspension. 

 

Just curious who decided on "ONLY" those two, & "AUTHORIZED" them, kRO, Gravity?

 

Sure the "30 day" Free trials are nice but you have to pay to use them after. It's bad enough that the game has became "pay to play", but now we are being told which 3rd-party software, we have to use, due to RO issues.

 

Sure blame the lag, disconnects, time gap errors, etc..., on anything you want to. All I have to say is that it's amazing these problems didn't start happening till after the server merge

 

Now going back to the 3rd party programs listed. I have been using cFOS for many months now. It's FREE & I've never had any issues using the program itself. It did help alleviate the original Time Gaps I was getting however it doesn't "FIX" the real problems.

 

There's no reason for this program not to be added to the "AUTHORIZED" ones:

 

http://www.cfos.de/en/index.htm

 

 

& GreenIvy, you're EXACTLY right!!!

[Beata]

Just curious who decided on "ONLY" those two, & "AUTHORIZED" them, kRO, Gravity?

 

1 and 2. In summery, as long as the proxy service does not mask the user's original ip.

[Razzez]

1 and 2. In summery, as long as the proxy service does not mask the user's original ip.

 

This was my point too.

 

Azzy said WTFast, & Lowerping, were the only two "Authorized" programs, & not to use any other programs but those. I was simply pointing out there are other programs that can be used.

 

I wish everyone read the forum, because I would love to see a poll of how many had these problems before the merge & how many have just had these problems since it.

[Beata]

This was my point too.

 

Azzy said WTFast, & Lowerping, were the only two "Authorized" programs, & not to use any other programs but those. I was simply pointing out there are other programs that can be used.

 

I wish everyone read the forum, because I would love to see a poll of how many had these problems before the merge & how many have just had these problems since it.

 

There are other programs yes, but not all are proxy based. What's pointed out by Azzy was specifically regarding proxy services. The one you suggested is a traffic/packet shaping program.

[Razzez]

There are other programs yes, but not all are proxy based. What's pointed out by Azzy was specifically regarding proxy services. The one you suggested is a traffic/packet shaping program.

 

I see. I just found it doing a search. I never fully read about since I knew it did "help to an extent".

 

I still believe there are many other programs out, that CAN be used, other than just those two, & was surprised to see that those were the only two "Authorized".

 

 

On another note: I don't understand why this thread was moved, to "Tech Support/Bug Reporting", when it's not a "BUG", & not anything Tech Support is going to do anything about. "Community Chat" was where this should have stayed IMO.

[renouille]

Azzy said WTFast, & Lowerping, were the only two "Authorized" programs, & not to use any other programs but those. I was simply pointing out there are other programs that can be used.

If the first few lines of the trace looks okay, then a performance proxy may fix it

Lowerping and WTFast are the two authorized ones

"ones" = "performance proxies"

[Razzez]

I think my point was missed. I said "I still believe there are many other programs out, that CAN be used, other than just those two". Now of course I haven't taken the time to do a full search, of the many programs, that are available, but I came across the one below, fairly quickly, & don't see what's wrong with this "performance proxy" program.

 

http://download.cnet...4-10062250.html

 

I also admit that I don't know "everything" about Networks, & there have been many changes, but I do know some things