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[Darkcompact]

I'm curious what you guys may suggest for an ASPD ranger. Going for my general highest performing set.

Currently using:
+13 Isabella red
Black devil mask
Well chewed pencil
+14 Straight Shooting Eleven Box
+9 Fallen Angel Wings EA10
+9 WWS EA2 dex 6
+7 Temporal Boots Agility w/luck day
2x Bakonawa Tattoos

Stats I'm gonna play with once I see what's the buffs I'll have up to see what's minimum agi to keep 193 aspd.

Any improvements you see to this set? (Gonna +9 boots next time enriched is active)

[Gabohollow]

well for MVP the armor in many situations its not the best becuase what you want is elemental resistance (mistress and his Jupitel thunder) so in many cases you need some diferent armors with diferent kind of elemental cards(or elemental cards in armors with slots, valky armor its a common pick).

 

in everything else you are good, but you may get some diferent opinions according to play styles.

[Kadelia]

+7 Temporal Boots Agility w/luck day

why stop at +9 when you can afford a +14 elven...? mystified...

 

That's another 3% aspd.. do it... you'll see the effect with how much you've stacked already, you might even be able to take off isabella and use a better hat, you know?

 

99 Love Balloons are better than well chewed pencil, since you get +1 STR, VIT, INT, AGI and LUK in place of that 1 dex. The 1 AGI alone is more useful.

[Darkcompact]

Ah I wasn't aware 99 love balloons was a btm headgear and it's stats. Updates and new items for the last year is new to me, that's why I'm asking

[Gabohollow]

i was re looking your equips and you use +9 FAW with EA but IMO aspd enchants are way better for auto warg, anyway warg do not benefits  from ranged increase, in fact a +12 FAW with delay+8%+delay+8%+ Special AGI (+4 AGI and +1 ASPD) its even better

[Memoir]

EA enchants would still do more dmg rather than aspd because the aspd is already reached with the Isabella and Elven. I would prolly prefer Agi than delay cause flee. You can switch to hawkeye boots at certain times.
If you can afford a big xbow with an aspd enchant then it would be better. Also 2 sound amplifiers. Being aspd doesn't mean you don't use arrow storm.

[DonatoX]

EA enchants would still do more dmg rather than aspd because the aspd is already reached with the Isabella and Elven. I would prolly prefer Agi than delay cause flee. You can switch to hawkeye boots at certain times.
If you can afford a big xbow with an aspd enchant then it would be better. Also 2 sound amplifiers. Being aspd doesn't mean you don't use arrow storm.

 

For Aspd Ranger, We r talking about dps. I would rather prefer aspd than more dmg. ^^ And do you have anything that proof what u just said about BXBow better than Elven Bow.

btw, Do you know how hard to get x2 aspd in BXBow? ^^  

[Gabohollow]

also not everything in a build should be damage for example using a bow with double slot and another B. master card and +9(or +12) FAW with completly go beyond the isabella effect then you can use something like vanargand for leeching hp/sp or the Leo Diadem that gives you baphomet card like effect (for kiling the mvp mob) or turkey for more HP/sp pool well, as i say IMO.

 

 

[Memoir]

For Aspd Ranger, We r talking about dps. I would rather prefer aspd than more dmg. ^^ And do you have anything that proof what u just said about BXBow better than Elven Bow.
btw, Do you know how hard to get x2 aspd in BXBow? ^^

You don't need x2 aspd. You get 1 aspd if you have 120 Agi and an additional 1 aspd enchant(I know its hard. I'm still breaking big xbows until now). Then you can prolly add a bm card and a valk card. The other ideal enchant would prolly be Dex + 3. If you were to +13 that bow then the damage difference for auto attack shouldn't be big compared against a +14 Elven but the arrow storm damage would significantly increase. If at +14(goodluck), then big xbow should be better. When I did the test at both +12 bows, the damage difference for auto attack is not that big so more upgrade means more damage for big xbow. Like I said, just because you are aspd doesn't mean you won't use arrow storm and just ctrl+click everything. Bigger arrow storm damage also means more dps. Why would you need more aspd gears if you can already reach 193 with that and Isabella? Adding more damage is more dps when you already obtained max aspd rather than adding more aspd.

But if you do prefer to not use Isabella and go for other headgear switching then I would suggest to get a faw for increasing your aspd. If you get special Agi then it should give you 1 aspd bonus.

Or you can have all the gears that you need depends on what you do and just switch.

Edited by Memoir, 03 August 2014 - 07:48 AM.

[xfade0awayx]

what is FAW?...sorry..no good with the acronyms

[OniichanN]

Fallen Angel Wings [1]

[CharAznable]

If its to achieve maximum damage, its better to avoid investing in ASPD in Gear, and try to source yourself with supplies and consumable to reach 193 aspd. That being said, i'm pretty sure i was able to 193 aspd with +14 BM elven and +10, 20 agi food with self buff(bless/agi) and so on. 

 

If you're trying to self sufficient, thats entirely different story.

[Nirvanna21]

If its to achieve maximum damage, its better to avoid investing in ASPD in Gear, and try to source yourself with supplies and consumable to reach 193 aspd. That being said, i'm pretty sure i was able to 193 aspd with +14 BM elven and +10, 20 agi food with self buff(bless/agi) and so on. 

 

If you're trying to self sufficient, thats entirely different story.

 

I think you can achieve plenty of damage even with investing some ASPD in gear. Depends on how you like to play, I for one dislike carrying many consumables or even spending extra zeny on them so I focused on capping ASPD/CRIT and achieving decent damage throughout my gears.

 

But yes, if you want the best of both worlds then buy all means use around 3 ~ 7 consumables per go

 

However, with that said, I think using a Beholder Master Card is a waste of time these days; use that slot for either Drosera for CRIT, Archer Skeleton for Damage or Thanatos if you are a rich mofo and want to see the numbers fly

Edited by Nirvanna21, 04 December 2014 - 11:47 AM.

[CharAznable]

I think you can achieve plenty of damage even with investing some ASPD in gear. Depends on how you like to play, I for one dislike carrying many consumables or even spending extra zeny on them so I focused on capping ASPD/CRIT and achieving decent damage throughout my gears.

 

But yes, if you want the best of both worlds then buy all means use around 3 ~ 7 consumables per go

 

However, with that said, I think using a Beholder Master Card is a waste of time these days; use that slot for either Drosera for CRIT, Archer Skeleton for Damage or Thanatos if you are a rich mofo and want to see the numbers fly

 

Hmm i wasn't refering to general crowd. OP have +14 elven carded with BM which means he already have a lot of aspd coming from Bow. That being said, Investing further on ASPD with FAW is kinda waste. Also, we were supposed to get new card along with 160/175 update, which you can put on garment that boost up crit damage as well. There will be new accessory that gives +2 flat aspd. There will be far more aspd gear coming to our server (shadow booster and so on) and with Rudra/AAW with +1 aspd, we're very flexible with stuff. I wouldn't recommend Drosera at all because you can get plenty of luck. Anoue for elven is pretty good since it boost crit damage. Crit rate can be solved with consumable and luck food as well. 

 

To further invest in numbers, If you look at the ATK formula, you can see crit damage applying on top of every other modifier. so it applies on top of damage range just like Ranged Attack increase. 

Edited by CharAznable, 04 December 2014 - 02:34 PM.

[Memoir]

I get 193 aspd without the use of buff foods(only awakening potion) using the ff:(note: I have 120 Agi)

+14 straight shooting Elven bow(beholder master) or
+12 straight shooting Big crossbow(beholder master) aspd+1 enchant - better option
Aspd enchant arch angel wing costume
+9 temporal Agi boots - bonus aspd+1 if you have 120 Agi - optional.
+9 or +12 Max Agi enchant fallen angel wing - optional.

I put optional on the boots cause if you have the big xbow then you don't really have to have both and instead you can use a damage enchanted version for more damage. You can also reach it while wearing woe set(bow+costume) with drosera herb stew for PVP,BG, or WoE play type.
You can always adjust the aspd values by using a different gear equation depends on what would you prefer the most but I like to switch headgears that are more useful for me so I never really use Isabella. I also didn't list accesories because with the gears listed, you are free to use both slots for any accesory like 2x sound amplifiers for insta cast play type.

[CharAznable]

Like where Memoir is going, its just depends on personal preference. I like buffing my damage using gear, and outsource ASPD from using food, but thats quite expansive to sustain if you're not funded. If you have 193 set up without consumable, that will save you money in the long run. 

 

So, Best slot for aspd Ranger really depends on what you're going to use, and fund, and consumable. 

[lightdrizzle]

If you can achieve 193 ASPD using +14 BM Elven bow, and WW suit, is that good? I don't see anyone mentioning WW suit.

[CharAznable]

If you can achieve 193 ASPD using +14 BM Elven bow, and WW suit, is that good? I don't see anyone mentioning WW suit.

 

wws with crit is almost a must as ASPD ranger pursuing for MvPing, because some mvp is just impossible to hit without crit. if you can hit them without, EA is fine.

[4782131221082418730]

i will use luk boots Hwkeyes with the new ranger skill

[fuyukikun]

tell me how to reach 193 aspd using dagger. yes, dagger.

[OniichanN]

Enchant a dagger with aspd+2, same thing as the +14 BM elven lol. Tho I forgot how much aspd you lose with a shield, you'd have to use a calc to get the right stats/consumables for 193 then.

[Havenn]

Lol....I remember the ASPD+2 CK on Ygg server my guildie had.....that ranger was OP XD