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#1 DonatoX

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 04:27 PM

I want to try using +12 RWC Knife and Faceworm Queen Leg for my GX(DD Crit build).

What card should i put into those weapons? why? 

 

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From the pic, I think I have enough atk already. and I can get 193 aspd easily. but I have no idea about card weapon. I have 4 slots.

What do u guys think?

 

Thank you in advance ^^ 


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#2 jake0619

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 05:06 PM

DD crit? aunoe or drake?


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Posted 31 August 2014 - 05:58 PM

DD crit? aunoe or drake?

 yep, that's why I'm thinking about but idk where i should put drake in? Faceworm Queen Leg?


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Posted 31 August 2014 - 07:05 PM

I think the two weapons you mentioned won't work very well together, and also your build...

First, crit damage boosting cards wouldn't boost the damage of the EQ proc from the faceworm queen transformation.

Secondly, it has good attack and 2 slots, which is not bad but... that would mean using the rwc knife on the offhand. For some reason the rwc ring/pendant with knife combo does not work when worn on the offhand(tried it before).

This means you're getting the refine bonus and +80 atk and +10% on all races. A 4 slot dagger with racial cards should do more damage. On high defense bosses, maybe ice pick would help more.

If possible you could try using a drake card to ignore the size mod instead of relying on weapon perfection from the rwc knife. I presume you're using megs, so you have quite a good bit of str for damage. Aunoe cards probably would be better for you.

Note: people say it is better to card the drake in the mainhand weapon. It isn't very wise to place it in an rwc knife anyway, which can autocast weapon perfection...

Edited by ShinKokuryuu, 31 August 2014 - 07:07 PM.

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 07:17 PM

I think the two weapons you mentioned won't work very well together, and also your build...

First, crit damage boosting cards wouldn't boost the damage of the EQ proc from the faceworm queen transformation.

Secondly, it has good attack and 2 slots, which is not bad but... that would mean using the rwc knife on the offhand. For some reason the rwc ring/pendant with knife combo does not work when worn on the offhand(tried it before).

This means you're getting the refine bonus and +80 atk and +10% on all races. A 4 slot dagger with racial cards should do more damage. On high defense bosses, maybe ice pick would help more.

If possible you could try using a drake card to ignore the size mod instead of relying on weapon perfection from the rwc knife. I presume you're using megs, so you have quite a good bit of str for damage. Aunoe cards probably would be better for you.

Note: people say it is better to card the drake in the mainhand weapon. It isn't very wise to place it in an rwc knife anyway, which can autocast weapon perfection...

 

Thank you so much, and yep, I thought about that too. This's a reason why i'm asking and need people's opinion.

May I ask u a noob question about offhand and mainhand. What side is mainhand and offhand?

 

btw I didn't think about EQ skill from the faceworm but because it's a good atk for me. If you have more suggestion, Please!!!! let me know.


Edited by DonatoX, 31 August 2014 - 07:19 PM.

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 10:54 PM

'shield side' is offhand


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Posted 31 August 2014 - 11:07 PM

Does Queen Faceworm Leg beat scalpel?
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Posted 31 August 2014 - 11:28 PM

Does Queen Faceworm Leg beat scalpel?

QFL is one of the strongest knife 180 atk 180 matk and 2 slots. so, yes it beats scalpel 120 atk and 3 slots (depends on what card compounded also, lol)
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Posted 01 September 2014 - 01:40 AM

I want to try using +12 RWC Knife and Faceworm Queen Leg for my GX(DD Crit build).
What card should i put into those weapons? why?

GX_zpsae91860c.png

From the pic, I think I have enough atk already. and I can get 193 aspd easily. but I have no idea about card weapon. I have 4 slots.
What do u guys think?

Thank you in advance ^^


How u get so many default stats wiyj those gears.. ?
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Posted 01 September 2014 - 01:54 AM

stats bonus from job level, +10 stats frm shadow set, +40 str from megingjard
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Posted 01 September 2014 - 03:29 AM

stats bonus from job level, +10 stats frm shadow set, +40 str from megingjard


She is not wearing shadow set.
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Posted 01 September 2014 - 03:53 AM

shadow set located in special eq tab which isnt showed at that pic
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Posted 01 September 2014 - 06:56 AM

She is not wearing shadow set.

 

I'm wearing Phy Shadow gears set (+50 atk). 


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Posted 01 September 2014 - 06:51 PM

I'm wearing Phy Shadow gears set (+50 atk). 

 

donato you've +10ed them all???


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Posted 01 September 2014 - 11:55 PM

What about Mobster Cards? Less crit dmg but 4 extra crit for each Card. Cause its harder to achiev high crit rate with daggers
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Posted 02 September 2014 - 06:37 AM

I thought the ATK in off-hand would not matter. It's all about slots/modifiers?


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Posted 02 September 2014 - 08:52 AM

Equip atk, refine bonuses and card effects should still apply for the offhand. Only thing ignored is weapon atk. However, the weapon atk value is still added on the numbers in the status window so it can get misleading...
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Posted 02 September 2014 - 09:43 AM

How are you going to get 193 atk spd?
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Posted 02 September 2014 - 11:27 AM

I heard EQ is targeting to yourself, and if you use weapon for demi-human like Glorious Gladius, it would increase EQ damage

because your character is demi-human.

Also, if you wear water element armor and use wind converter, it would increase EQ damage 75%.

For same reason, Deviling card would increase EQ damage if your weapon is not neutral element.

 

This information is from jRO, so please test and let us know if EQ in iRO works the same way. :D

 

By the way, RWC knife has only one slot even though it looks it has two!!

 


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Posted 02 September 2014 - 12:49 PM

I heard EQ is targeting to yourself, and if you use weapon for demi-human like Glorious Gladius, it would increase EQ damage

because your character is demi-human.

Also, if you wear water element armor and use wind converter, it would increase EQ damage 75%.

For same reason, Deviling card would increase EQ damage if your weapon is not neutral element.

 

This information is from jRO, so please test and let us know if EQ in iRO works the same way. :D

 

By the way, RWC knife has only one slot even though it looks it has two!!

 

No, the effect is not target user.


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Posted 02 September 2014 - 12:57 PM

How are you going to get 193 atk spd?

based on what open slots he has, he could go

Base ~ 120 agi
job bonus ~ 7 agi
+12 faw (special agi,delay3,delay3)
+12 temp agi (delay4,lucky day)
+11 isa or +12 spb
pegasus ear wing
+10 phyiscal earring
awake pot
cele pot

that would give him 193 aspd with out expensive food buffs or other major buffs
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Posted 02 September 2014 - 01:23 PM

No, the effect is not target user.

 

Just to be clear.

I meant the EQ damage goes to monsters, but using user for damage calculation.

It's like targeting user and splash damage to the monsters surrounding user.

So, have you tested wearing deviling carded garment with elemental converter

change EQ damage or not?


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Posted 02 September 2014 - 01:45 PM

My beautiful dagger XD going to good use.

 

I am not sure that EQ would behave like that though, sounds way way far fetched what with EQs strange formula. I say test it out and see what happens.


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Posted 02 September 2014 - 01:52 PM

based on what open slots he has, he could go

Base ~ 120 agi
job bonus ~ 7 agi
+12 faw (special agi,delay3,delay3)
+12 temp agi (delay4,lucky day)
+11 isa or +12 spb
pegasus ear wing
+10 phyiscal earring
awake pot
cele pot

that would give him 193 aspd with out expensive food buffs or other major buffs

 

I have the following:

job bonus ~ 7 agi
+12 faw (special agi,delay3,delay3)
+11 isa or +12 spb
awake pot
cele pot

 

I have 110 base agi and I dont reach 193 without +20 food and +10 agi scroll.  Sorry if i'm just ignorant I've just personally had difficulty acquiring some of these items and still cant reach 193 without "expensive food buffs or other major buffs"


Edited by Balthronus, 02 September 2014 - 04:10 PM.

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Posted 02 September 2014 - 02:38 PM

I included earring since it adds 3% aspd. So its relavant to the calculations.

OP is very well off and either already has everything i listed or can easily obtain them.

based on what i listed he gets

Isa setup
Agi 132 (120 base, 7 job, 4 faw, 1 balloon)
Equip aspd 61%
Flat aspd +4

Spb setup
Agi 132 (120 base, 7 job, 4 faw, 1 balloon)
Equip aspd 69%
Flat aspd +3

Since you only have 110 base agi, you lose out on your temp agi boots +1 aspd bonus.
The faw that you dont have adds +4 agi, +1 aspd, 22% equip aspd at 120 base agi, so thats a huge chunk of aspd your missing out on, and the headgears, +11 isa adds +2 aspd or +12 spb adds +1 aspd and 8% equip aspd, both items also add alot to you aspd.

If your just going around hoping to get most of your aspd boost from one piece of gear, it aint gonna work out well even with all the crazy expensive buffs.

Now i know OP can afford the expensive buffs, so its possible he could free up a slot, like the headgear spot, for a +12 eddga or something. I havent done the calculations on it, but it should be possible.


Edited by hmc317, 02 September 2014 - 05:45 PM.

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