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[DonatoX]

Donato when will you make your RWC Memory Knife like this?

wowwww!!!!!!!!!! +15!!!! Hehehe. Maybe not.. It's not my interesting anymore since it got fixed ^^

[ShinKokuryuu]

EQ is supposedly self-targeting. You hit yourself first(at this point element applies, so wearing fire armor and using water endow increases damage) but you don't take damage. Instead the damage is splashed in an AoE around you, which is then reduced by the hit enemies' cards etc. It is neutral element at this point.

Well that's what people on jRO discovered about EQ. Maybe you could test it out :V

Edit: if this is correct, you can basically use deviling card in garment and endow your weapon to have a big damage boost, or use an alice card and do more damage.

Edited by ShinKokuryuu, 03 September 2014 - 02:57 AM.

[Havenn]

I really wish I tested that before selling the dagger XD. It's hit or miss though, since EQ on our server is not amplified nor reduced by elemental/racial cards/neutral reductions.

[ShinKokuryuu]

The difference is that we're always getting hit by the splash damage, while we are the ones using EQ now.

In jRO it seems like deviling card does not reduce EQ damage either, so it's likely we have the same EQ mechanics...

[aznspikey]

Tested it. While I had Mild Wind (Wind Element) on and wearing Water Armor, I did more EQ dmg as oppose to wearing Neutral Armors. 

[MintRoyale]

screenies? lol

 

[aznspikey]

My bad. Went and did another run instead of uploading pics. >.<
 
Before Water Armor, 341 to eggs.


 
After Water Armor, 595 to eggs.

 

 

Edited by aznspikey, 03 September 2014 - 10:27 PM.

[Datrax]

Can some1 explain the discussion to me ? You do more dmg when you hit yourself ???? Is this some proc of the RWC-knife?

[MintRoyale]

thanks spikes !

 

always good to have experienced players willing to have good discussions and share experience

 

i upped your post mate

[ShinKokuryuu]

Right I'll explain it one more time, as clearly as I can.

Earthquake is a very unique attack that is quite unlike other skills out there.

First, the attack targets the user(in this case, YOU). Modifiers that would do more damage on yourself increase the damage. Yes, you are basically trying to do more damage to yourself. Element counts, as spike has shown.

However, you do NOT take any damage from this. They just calculate the damage.

Next, the damage that was calculated from hitting you is spread into your surroundings(splashed around you). This is what you get hit by when mvps like Ifrit use EQ. Here it's neutral property-ish(reduced by GR card but not deviling).

That's basically it. The trick to doing powerful EQs with the knife would then be finding ways to inflict more damage on yourself.

EQ damage is based off your attack, but it inflicts magic damage in the last stage where it splashes. I'm unsure if the first part is magical as well however.

I might translate the info on EQ that was tested in jRO in one particular blog some time, seeing how the mechanics are looking to be the same.

Thanks for the testing spike *_*

[Datrax]

Thank you very mich !!

[DonatoX]

Thanks guys ^^

 

this is mine. I endowed the weapon with Water element.

 

with Bryn

 

with Wind Armor

 

 

With Fire Armor

 

 

Last one Water Endowed + poison With Fire Armor

 

 

and sorry, I don't have much time to test. ><"

 

Edited by DonatoX, 04 September 2014 - 05:17 AM.

[Havenn]

Judging by that it appears to be true that it is self targetting. If you had used DR FAW here, damage would have been 6600~7600 I believe

Also, Sunglasses with LK.....really...XD

 

BFG maybe?!

 

Can you try this for me buddy.

 

Fire Armor + DR garment + Water Endow from Sage (not converter) + Alice shield--this part might not work. (use EDP too) I think this will go way over 10k if I am thinking correctly 

Edited by Havenn, 04 September 2014 - 05:24 AM.

[DonatoX]

Judging by that it appears to be true that it is self targetting. If you had used DR FAW here, damage would have been 6600~7600 I believe

Also, Sunglasses with LK.....really...XD

 

BFG maybe?!

 

Can you try this for me buddy.

 

Fire Armor + DR garment + Water Endow from Sage (not converter) + Alice shield--this part might not work. (use EDP too) I think this will go way over 10k if I am thinking correctly 

 

for u ><"

[MintRoyale]

awesome stuff ~

 

can i ask what proc rate for earthquake is?

 

maybe a video if someone can spare the time, lol

 

and lol at the damage, such carnage

Edited by MintRoyale, 04 September 2014 - 05:39 AM.

[Havenn]

Aww not as high as I thought but we're on the right track. Need to get you a +14 Glorious Gladius now =D

 

It's pretty high minty (seemed like 5% to me) I imagine 2 daggers at 193 is near constant

Edited by Havenn, 04 September 2014 - 05:39 AM.

[DonatoX]

Aww not as high as I thought but we're on the right track. Need to get you a +14 Glorious Gladius now =D

 

It's pretty high minty, I imagine 2 daggers at 193 is near constant

 

I think LK effect doesn't increase EQ dmg...  

[DonatoX]

[Zayaan]

Aww not as high as I thought but we're on the right track. Need to get you a +14 Glorious Gladius now =D

 

It's pretty high minty (seemed like 5% to me) I imagine 2 daggers at 193 is near constant

 

Pretty sure it is as high as you thought. There are 3 targets.

Edited by Zayaan, 04 September 2014 - 05:46 AM.

[MintRoyale]

with all this in mind, can i ask some noob questions?

 

does user int affect damage? also have we figured out answer to how cards affect this? lol

 

this is easily one of the most intriguing threads in a long time, GX is making a come back with this?

[Havenn]

Pretty sure it is as high as you thought. There are 3 targets.

 

Ah just noticed that XD

[DonatoX]

Ah just noticed that XD

 

Havenn, I got some good idea but I don't have time today. I will test it more for you later.... 

[Yugacky]

Fire armor with Ktullanux card with water endow would be nice too.

LK card does not work for EQ on jRO neither.

So, might have same formula as jRO.

[Yugacky]

FYI, These are tested in jRO.

FBH card does not increase EQ damage.

ATK from icepick or Thanatos card won't be applied to EQ.

Odin, Striking, Windmill Rush, EDP are applied to EQ.

 

 

Does White Eddga work together? If so, it would increase EQ damage a lot.

[Datrax]

Man that dagger is a beast Oo did you decided on cards yet? And do you plan to use two Faceworm Queen Legs? Or just for higher proc rate?