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[Gendo0032]

I have been looked up everywhere on iro wiki, google, blah blah blah, but there's always 2 formula for each skill :-S I really dont know which is right or wrong =.= 

Im really want to know the exact formula currently for Cart Cannon  and Acid bomb?

/ps: sorry for my bad english :"(

Edited by Gendo0032, 05 September 2014 - 06:46 PM.

[DrAzzy]

The formulas used on iW should be correct. That's where I got the formulas that I used in my calculator, and those results have been checked against reality.

[Gendo0032]

Thank you Azzy   

[DrAzzy]

You could probably just use my calc for what you're doing :-P

 

[Gendo0032]

Okay :3 i will~
I just wanna ask something Azzy, where i can find a good/newest calculator to testing my damage?   

Some calculator on Google i found, it doesnt have some item that im wearing (Str Glove add gold Sacraba, etc.....)   

[DrAzzy]

There is no fully updated renewal calculator.

 

As far as I know, your choices are out-of-date iW one that doesn';t have new gears (and, i think, still has old CC element behavior), or mine, which doesn't have any gears - you have to calc all the substats and modifiers.

[Riakuta]

There is no fully updated renewal calculator.

 

As far as I know, your choices are out-of-date iW one that doesn';t have new gears (and, i think, still has old CC element behavior), or mine, which doesn't have any gears - you have to calc all the substats and modifiers.

 

No option for using no weapon... I tried using the calculator with no weapon for Cart Cannon, but it said I would be doing 10,000+ with no weapon...

Edited by Riakuta, 08 September 2014 - 06:49 PM.

[Gendo0032]

RIP math

[DrAzzy]

No option for using no weapon... I tried using the calculator with no weapon for Cart Cannon, but it said I would be doing 10,000+ with no weapon...

Are you trolling?

 

10k unarmed CC is not hard... (holy balls vs something shadow/undead gets you to like 8k with typical stats, and pushing it over 10k is as simple as adding some +atk/+% ranged gear - at least by my calculations)

Edited by DrAzzy, 09 September 2014 - 09:24 AM.

[Riakuta]

Are you trolling?

 

10k unarmed CC is not hard... (holy balls vs something shadow/undead gets you to like 8k with typical stats, and pushing it over 10k is as simple as adding some +atk/+% ranged gear - at least by my calculations)

 

I think you misunderstood me. I put all my stats into the calculator and it gave me a damage of 10,000+. My actual damage in game was 5,876.

[DrAzzy]

Which calculator? 

 

The iW one, not mine, right? 

 

If it's mine, can you let me know what stats and everything you entered so I can figure out how it went wrong and fix it?

[Riakuta]

Which calculator? 

 

The iW one, not mine, right? 

 

If it's mine, can you let me know what stats and everything you entered so I can figure out how it went wrong and fix it?

 

STR : 58

INT : 101

DEX : 120
LUK : 3

 

WATK : 0

Weapon Level : Level 4

Refine Level : 0

Physical %: 2

Cart Boost Level : Level 5

Cannon Ball : Iron

[Gendo0032]

I have some question to ask here:
1. Does endow effect CC ? (Asper, cursed water,etc....)?
2.Endow overwrite welement ?
3. Does endow(asper,cursed,etc..) stack with holly,shadow cannon ball ? If yes then what happend when i use ghost ball with cursed water ? it does 300% damage?
4.If i use red naght with iron ball and CC heater, i do lesser damage on it but not missed ?it has 0% fire.
5. 

• When using an elemental Cannon Ball, it takes the elemental damage modifier from the equpped Cannon Ball, and then applies the modifier again to the entire damage.
  So let say i deal 200% damage on ghost with CC(blue text) and then the Red text will aplly to my damage later on my final damage(200% more) ?

 sorry for some noob question, cause the way CC work just comfused me so much   
 

Edited by Gendo0032, 10 September 2014 - 11:11 PM.

[Gendo0032]

Anyone ? 

[DrAzzy]

1. Yes, it effects the watk/eatk portion. 

2. Weapon element is overwritten by endow/convert/etc.

3. Cannon ball overrides everything. Also, cannon ball element mod is applied to the watk/eatk portion, AND THEN AGAIN APPLIED TO THE TOTAL DAMAGE. Whenever you can get a cannonball elemental advantage, do so. It is insane. 

4. yes, you will do less damage, because the watk/eatk portion will miss. The satk portion which is not effected by weapon element is neutral and will hit the monster. 

5. Can't parse the way you asked that. Say base damage is 9k, 4k from eatk, 5k from watk/eatk, using cannonball with 200% ele mod vs target. 5k * 200% = 10k, 10k+4k =14k. Now apply the 200% again, 28k damage.

[Gendo0032]

OMG! thank you so so much Azzy 
There's something still bothering me dat, whenever i use iron ball, elemental ball to a monster (100%neutral,100%holy,etc..) i dont see so much  difference about damage, it's elemental ball supposed to have higher damage ?

Edited by Gendo0032, 18 September 2014 - 03:51 PM.

[DrAzzy]

Element ball will only do more damage as a result of element modifier. 

 

If the damage mod is 100%, elemental ball will do less damage than iron (it has less atk)

Edited by DrAzzy, 18 September 2014 - 05:47 PM.

[Gendo0032]

Thank you xDD