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#1 cory

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 10:37 AM

1) Is it true?  Example: skull cap, Crown of deceit, ninja scroll.

 

2) If I remember correctly, a VERY long time ago when Kafra Shop first came out, Heim stated the focus will be on headgears and headgears only; otherwise it would be stepping over the line into ExTrEmE p2w.  I believe other servers in other countries (now shutdown) had put MVP cards and other retardly OvErPoWeReD gears in KafraShop and hence why they are now shutdown once the company milked the $$$ from players.  Please Correct me if I'm mistaken.

 

3) But what kind of frustrates me is the Skull cap/ TSoD combination.  It is the best 1-H PVM in the game I think and is worth 1+B zeny.  

 

PVP? Red Pom Band.  You won't do damage/kill anyone running around in Feather beret; but other classes can go easily with any headgear without sacrificing much damage.

 

4) Most other classes don't have these Kafra shop items that "you need" in order to be pretty good in damage. For example: RK IB build?  twin edge of naught sieger (red) or equivalent. 

 

 

 

Here is my list of headgears PVM that needs validated/proofed against the top usefulness.

1. +9 Skull Cap of caster

2. +9 CoD of caster.  (close to #1, subjective!)

3. +9 Moon Rabbit hat of caster?

4. hat[1]

 

EDIT:  there is a HUGE gap in damage according to http://upaste.me/calc/ between a +9 Skull cap/CoD vs +9 Moon Rabbit of caster.  


Edited by cory, 17 September 2014 - 10:39 AM.

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#2 Kadelia

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 01:23 PM

Yes the best items in the game enter the economy via the cash shop. There is no denying it at this point. This will also not be changing. Kro and iro no longer introduce headgear items via quest, but by cash shop gambling.

EDIT: there is a HUGE gap in damage according to http://upaste.me/calc/ between a +9 Skull cap/CoD vs +9 Moon Rabbit of caster.


I am fairly certain I mentioned previously moon rabbit isn't very good in renewal.

Edited by Jaye, 17 September 2014 - 01:26 PM.

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Posted 22 September 2014 - 01:14 PM

LOL...

 

Moon Rabbit Hat is one of the best hats... even better than Red Pom Band for PvP purposes when used it properly xD.

 

I would suggest you to live test the items before doing it by using a website... results can be quite different.


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Posted 22 September 2014 - 01:49 PM

The Ordinary Magician's Hat is extremely good to use, and it not a Kafra Shop item.


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Posted 22 September 2014 - 04:26 PM

LOL...

 

Moon Rabbit Hat is one of the best hats... even better than Red Pom Band for PvP purposes when used it properly xD.

 

I would suggest you to live test the items before doing it by using a website... results can be quite different.

 

MRH is bad.  +5 matk raw then it goes percentage wise after that. Skull cap is alot better. MRH is just a poor mans skull cap.  really poor.


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Posted 24 September 2014 - 09:24 AM

I think the argument is that at say... +12 the moonrabbit hat adds 12% matk. The skull cap adds 6% and some raw number. That 12% can be huge compared to 6% + 120 if you already have huge matk and it stacks nicely(multiplies) with other things like hibrams/kvm staff/etc.


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Posted 24 September 2014 - 11:35 AM

The ordinary Magician Hat doesn't work on Boss protocol monsters or PVP/woe (as it should be) as far as I know.  Great leveling hat though.

 

The +7 skull cap gives 8% matk raw while the MRH gives +5 Matk and % increase per upgrade past 5. Unless the irowiki DB is wrong, that I would not be surprised about.  Please enlighten me.       

 

oops remembered wrong. my apologies. 


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Posted 24 September 2014 - 11:45 AM

You'd need like 2000+ matk for moon rabbit to beat skull cap, if you're using tsod. Thats not feasible under normal circumstances.
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Posted 24 September 2014 - 02:25 PM

You'd need like 2000+ matk for moon rabbit to beat skull cap, if you're using tsod. Thats not feasible under normal circumstances.

 

You'd need 2000 matk after all other multipliers. If you have % matk vs demi human bonuses or the like that would multiply with the %matk bonuses, not add. If you have no other multipliers, yeah TSOD/skull cap is better but you're stuck using TSOD then. /shrug


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Posted 24 September 2014 - 04:49 PM

I think it's a fair consideration, since TSoD is pretty good, all things considered.

 

Some of the 2 handed staves are stronger, but TSoD is  really useful on its own right. It'll be even better when its slottable, too. Its good not just because of MATK, but also because of spell enchants, after cast delay reduction and mdef piercing, which some of the stronger staves don't have.


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Posted 26 September 2014 - 11:41 AM

I think the argument is that at say... +12 the moonrabbit hat adds 12% matk. The skull cap adds 6% and some raw number. That 12% can be huge compared to 6% + 120 if you already have huge matk and it stacks nicely(multiplies) with other things like hibrams/kvm staff/etc.

 

MRH is pretty good if balanced properly with other multipliers and you have a pretty high +matk.

 

As of right now, Ordinary Hat @ high upgrade is the BEST headgear so far ONLY if, as MRH, you can stack it properly with other high upgraded gear. ~80% piercing is close to another hibrams for some sets.

 


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Posted 26 September 2014 - 04:00 PM

I think it's a fair consideration, since TSoD is pretty good, all things considered.

 

Some of the 2 handed staves are stronger, but TSoD is  really useful on its own right. It'll be even better when its slottable, too. Its good not just because of MATK, but also because of spell enchants, after cast delay reduction and mdef piercing, which some of the stronger staves don't have.

 

that thing gonna get slotted?


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Posted 26 September 2014 - 05:43 PM

that thing gonna get slotted?

 

Just putting it out there that kRO added new weapons that can be enchanted @ malangdo.

Noble Cross, Muramasa[2], Twin Edge of Naught Sieger [Red], Twin Edge of Naught Sieger [Blue], Thorn Staff of Darkness[1].

These are not typos and yes thorn staff can be socket enchanted on kRO now.

Oh and now you can enchant select costume headgears @ Malangdo as well.

http://forums.irowik...ead.php?t=99364

 

came out in kro around the end of 2012

 

so don't know when we are getting it here, maybe you can request it from oda during tiki tuesdays


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Posted 27 September 2014 - 09:15 AM

MRH is pretty good if balanced properly with other multipliers and you have a pretty high +matk.

 

As of right now, Ordinary Hat @ high upgrade is the BEST headgear so far ONLY if, as MRH, you can stack it properly with other high upgraded gear. ~80% piercing is close to another hibrams for some sets.

 

 

The video shows a Warlock using the Ordinary hat in WoE.  I thought the hats effects do not work in pvp/woe/mvp as stated before on this server.


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Posted 27 September 2014 - 12:02 PM

The video shows a Warlock using the Ordinary hat in WoE. I thought the hats effects do not work in pvp/woe/mvp as stated before on this server.


Could be the costume version. :)
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Posted 27 September 2014 - 12:58 PM

If we only had Costume Novice Gear...


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