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#1 LoveIsBlue

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:49 PM

I have an Amist evoled with bloodlust skill and she's ready to be homunculus S
Since I see alot of people go for Dieter or Sera, I kinda want to change to Eleanor or Bayeri. Anyone have evolve to both before? I would like to see its stat at lv150. I need to know ITS STAT at 150 plz.
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#2 DrAzzy

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 06:31 PM

Yeah. 

 

They were both rather disappointing, bayeri moreso. 

 

Eleanor is capable of outrageous physical DPS - but only if you stand there pumping blues into her, because her SP mod is less than half that of the next-worst homun s. Starting from Ami base would just make the SP problem even more severe. The only potentially useful skills in end game are the grappler skills, and even those are difficult to use effectively, and are rarely decisive. Trying to AFK level these is a fraction the speed of a sera or dieter - which is disappointing, considering that the reward is also worse. 

 

Bayeri's biggest flaw on leveling is that his AoE skill is interruptible, which makes it difficult to get off when you, you know, want to use an AoE skill. Worse still, neither of his buffs are very useful. Stahl horn does decent damage, but the cast is interruptible. The only thing that could possibly be useful end game, as far as I can tell, is his safety wall cast - but it can't be recast unless both walls are down, which limit's it's usefulness - plus, as a defensive assistant, a sera absolutely crushes bay. 

 

To recap - Eleanor lacks useful endgame skills, but kills well if supplied with -_-loads of blue pots. Bayeri lacks endgame skills, and isn't terribly effective on leveling either.


Edited by DrAzzy, 17 September 2014 - 06:31 PM.

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 07:16 PM

Thank You
But I just lost hope to humanity T^T, both coolest and cuteness homun has crap skills and inconvenient pathetic abilities. WHYYYYYYY!!!!!! :eyes:  :ani_x:  :dotdotdot:


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Posted 17 September 2014 - 08:52 PM

It's a real shame - if the bay did pneuma instead of safety wall, it'd be great :-P I suspect the developers were thinking that the safetywall casting would be a lot more useful than it seems to be. 


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Posted 18 September 2014 - 10:02 AM

and I'm a baby Genetist, mention added
Will the homunculus be normal if I'm a baby?


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Posted 18 September 2014 - 11:10 AM

Homun is normal. 

 

At least on a baby genetic you don't have to worry about homun's end-game performance. 


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Posted 18 September 2014 - 11:34 AM

what you mean? I think baby Genetic can be strong as normal with specific skill build.


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Posted 18 September 2014 - 12:07 PM

Not at all; Baby genetic cannot fulfil the role of genetic in endgame content. This is the case with most baby classes; they're for fun and vanity and lulz... but end-game content is best handled by adults. 

 

The max HP hurts, and will make it harder to tank MVPs and utterly destroy your survivability in WoE. 

 

But the bigger problem is that they can't transcend. That means no acid bomb (there goes the main MVP killing skill) and no full chem (there goes the most important genetic supportive skill). Those are what I call class-defining skills, the skills that define the role and capabilities of the class. 

 

Baby classes (particularly genetics) can be made to perform well in PVM, but not MVP/WoE/most endgame content. Plus, the limitations on stat distribution constrain any attempt to work around the other limitations of baby class.

 

Probably your best homun bet for a baby class, if you want to do the good stuff with it... it's gotta be an ami base for the hp, for sure... but I'd then want something that could buff the owner to help make up for the weaknesses of a baby - ie, Sera for defense (PK gives obscene reduction), Dieter for more damage, or Eira for the flee+aspd of overboost. 

 

On the other hand, if this is a for-fun char, like most babies, you've got much more freedom in how you choose your homun, since you're not forced to choose something to maximize the strength of the resultant char.


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Posted 20 September 2014 - 11:48 AM

I tried to MvP with baby Alchemist, and she is excel like an adult, love it.


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Posted 20 September 2014 - 12:35 PM

just go eleanor you know you want her  :p_love:


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Posted 21 September 2014 - 08:46 PM

I will get Eleanor, I may regret it later but cuteness conquer all  :ok:  :kis:  :lv:  :no1:


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