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[cory]

 

it heals outheals your damage

 

Got a Eden group quest to kill 10 of those and tried miserably.  I even tried stave crashing to death. LOL

[Necrohealiac]

freeze/sc them when they try to heal?  it's not an instant cast spell

[Yggdrasil13]

hell inferno.

[cory]

They can't freeze cuz of their High mdef.  Guess I have to curse dagger them and respect 120 agi, 80 str for a moment.

 

or does sienna execrate work on high mdef.....Too much thought in trying to kill 10 monsters I will never kill in the future. 

Edited by cory, 19 September 2014 - 05:42 AM.

[Necrohealiac]

if you think 10 are bad i guess you're not going to bother with the bounty boards.  150 count, and eden boards also have like a 20/30 kill count + 20 mystic horn collection.

[Exvee]

*It's not supposed to be for solo*

 

yeah why don't you play monk class and GFist Cornus, congrats you just win a jackpot...

[Necrohealiac]

dunno how high people can get on gfist these days but if you're not careful i can see you killing yourself via the cornu reflect damage.  doesn't seem worth it, especially if you have to deal with hordes of naga at the same time.

[cory]

if their going to make a monster this hard to kill for magic classes, at least make it tame-able so I can have a FREAKIN UNICORN PET

 

You listening GMs???

 

I would pay real $$$ for dat stuffz   LOOK...sooo prettyyy

 

Edited by cory, 19 September 2014 - 06:05 AM.

[Draciolus]

What skill are you trying to kill it with(and what level is said skill)?

You SHOULD be able to out damage it's heal since it can't cast it every second. And if you are Warlock, or even a 85+ High Wizard, you should have at LEAST(bare minimum) 90 Int. And I'm guessing you might be using stuff that is either on par, or slightly better than, Eden gears. If I'm wrong...then no idea what would cause that since I was 1 shotting them with Crimson Rock when my Warlock was still in Mid TI and didn't have a lot of the gears I do now.

[Viri]

Cornus are holy(-75% elemental damage for w/e level of holy they are) You'd have to crimson rock pretty hard to 1 shot them.

[Draciolus]

Yes, but they also only have 20k HP. Even for something that is resistant to magic, that isn't all that much. Mystical Amp + Buffs+decent gears+the right stats(literally almost everything went to Int back then until it got maxed) is usually all that is needed to murder them.

[Viri]

That's fair. 80k crimson rock against neutral shouldn't be that hard with amp even with mediocre gear. Some mdef pierce might help too /shrug

[Draciolus]

I'm sure I could get 40k or so now with the gears and levels/redoing of stats I've done since my Warlock graduated Mid(almost everything was 1 CR by the time I left Mid). Got rid of his Dex and threw it all into Luk and Vit.

[cory]

Yes, but they also only have 20k HP. Even for something that is resistant to magic, that isn't all that much. Mystical Amp + Buffs+decent gears+the right stats(literally almost everything went to Int back then until it got maxed) is usually all that is needed to murder them.

 

 

They self heal to full health when it is below 40%? HP.  

 

I have a +9 skull cap/ TSoD and 115 INT base 100 dex as a 123 Warlock.

 

My amp'd CR5 does 3.5-4k damage total.  The CR cast delay is the culprit i thought, so I tried Chain Lightning 5 among other skills.  Heck, even if I tetra'd it, it would require 2 hits and that is not feasible due to heal.

 

It's impossible.

 

If I had hell inferno (wow i found a use for this in game...go figure, to kill unicorns) I would do enough damage to almost 2 shot them (12k).

[cory]

I'm sure I could get 40k or so now with the gears and levels/redoing of stats I've done since my Warlock graduated Mid(almost everything was 1 CR by the time I left Mid). Got rid of his Dex and threw it all into Luk and Vit.  wtf!?

 

Did you get change your DEX from 100 down to like 10 or even 1 dex!?  You're basically adding a whole 1 second to your variable casting time.  Sure you can reduce it with gears but you'd also sacrifice matk%.  

 

That really isn't a wise thing to do.  Let me give you an example: BASE stats 150/50

+7 staff of destruction.

No gears.  

Radius lvl 3

Recognized Spell 1

 

120 INT  

100 Dex

65   Luck

94   Vit

 

Crimson Rock lvl 5. VS Zombie Slaughter (undead) 

1.3 sec (fixed) + 0.8 sec (var)=2.1

Average Damage 52979 (52979X1hit)

 

vs.

 

+7 staff of destruction. 

No gears.  

Radius lvl 3

Recognized Spell 1

 

120 INT  

1     Dex  (lol?)

115   Luck

94   Vit

 

Crimson Rock lvl 5. VS Zombie Slaughter (undead) 

1.3 sec (fixed) + 1.8 sec (var) = 3.1 seconds

Average Damage 52715 (52715X1hit)

 

 

Please tell me you didnt reset to 1 dex....

[Viri]

If you have near 100% variable cast reduction 1 dex vs 100 dex makes very little difference.

[Draciolus]

Did you get change your DEX from 100 down to like 10 or even 1 dex!? You're basically adding a whole 1 second to your variable casting time. Sure you can reduce it with gears but you'd also sacrifice matk%.

That really isn't a wise thing to do. Let me give you an example: BASE stats 150/50
+7 staff of destruction.
No gears.
Radius lvl 3
Recognized Spell 1

120 INT
100 Dex
65 Luck
94 Vit

Crimson Rock lvl 5. VS Zombie Slaughter (undead)
1.3 sec (fixed) + 0.8 sec (var)=2.1 Average Damage 52979 (52979X1hit)

vs.

+7 staff of destruction.
No gears.
Radius lvl 3
Recognized Spell 1

120 INT
1 Dex (lol?)
115 Luck
94 Vit

Crimson Rock lvl 5. VS Zombie Slaughter (undead)
1.3 sec (fixed) + 1.8 sec (var) = 3.1 seconds Average Damage 52715 (52715X1hit)


Please tell me you didnt reset to 1 dex....

How am I sacrificing MAtk? Every FIVE(5) points od Dex is 1 MAtk, where as for Int it's every THREE(3). In the end you gain more MAtk for higher Luk than Dex. I get around 90% variable reduction for my gears. 120 Int, 110 Luk, and rest is Vit(roughly 90...not home can't give exact atm).

Edit: I got all the info about the stats both from checking ad I distributed points and from the wiki.

Edited by Draciolus, 19 September 2014 - 10:59 AM.

[cory]

Yea that is true but you are stuck with cast time reduction gears.  I just don't see the need to sacrifice your options for Luck in able to do an insignificant, marginal damage increase.

 

For WoE, the stat resistance is nice but you are still going to die from what you would normally die from.

[Draciolus]

I don't WoE or PvP, I can tank 99% of the monsters spawned by a DB(Bio3 being the only things that can easily kill my Warlock...except Marge), and usually end up having to tank in parties because people either move too slow, or decide to leave people behind and I do my best to cover them so they can catch up to the group.

[cory]

How am I sacrificing MAtk? Every FIVE(5) points od Dex is 1 MAtk, where as for Int (i assume u meant luck) it's every THREE(3). In the end you gain more MAtk for higher Luk than Dex. I get around 90% variable reduction for my gears. 120 Int, 110 Luk, and rest is Vit(roughly 90...not home can't give exact atm).

Edit: I got all the info about the stats both from checking ad I distributed points and from the wiki.

 

It's still less MATK, why?

 

Mine:

100 DEX = +20 MATK

60 LUCK = +20 MATK

 

Yours:

1     DEX   = 0 MATK

115 LUCK = 38.3 MATK (rounded down)

 

Its basically the same MATK you get from luck.  Interesting stuff.

 

 

 

I'm NOT trying to say your build is bad or anything. 

[Draciolus]

100 Dex is 20 MAtk

100 Luk is 33.3333~ MAtk.

Not the same. I see a 13 MAtk difference. The fact I'm casting the same as many Warlocks with tons of Dex, and dealing more, makes my build(at least for me) much better.

[Riakuta]

Wouldn't Comet be better for killing Cornus...

[cory]

You didnt factor in the extra Lucky you can get with 120 INT 100 DEX  94 VIT 60? Luck

 

anyways all this has to do with how to kill a unicorn 

[Draciolus]

Yes, but only using it with Release in this case. The cool down is too long to effectively long cast. But people with Tetra(afaik) can't get Comet.

[Draciolus]

You didnt factor in the extra Lucky you can get with 120 INT 100 DEX 94 VIT 60? Luck

anyways all this has to do with how to kill a unicorn

Cast reduc gears and Dex reduc don't stack as far ad I've seen and heard.