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#1 5936130809090831630

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Posted 01 October 2014 - 01:03 AM

1. some weapon have 30% defence bypass. how does this work ? let's say enemy has 300 defence, so it has 38,5% reduct. does this weapon reduce it to 27%(38.5%x0.7) or make the defence become 210 (which is 30,9%) ?

2. thara frog reduce demihuman dmg by 30%. let's say i have 60% more damage to demi human(with 3 hydra). does this work like finaldmgx0.7 or it reduce my 60% to 30% ?

 

 

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#2 fuyukikun

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Posted 01 October 2014 - 03:15 AM

1. cant answer that, i also curious.
2. yes, reduction based on same factor stacks. if u have thara frog, beret, handkerchief in mouth it will give you total of 30%+10%+3%= 43% reduction from demi human.
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Posted 01 October 2014 - 05:31 AM

1. i'd assume the 30% bypass is base on the actual def number itself

which means 300 def would become 210 def.

 

2. Atk * % mod = final output dmg, then take the final output dmg *  % reduction mod = the final dmg.


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Posted 01 October 2014 - 06:56 AM

1.  I don't know of anyone doing a rigorous investigation of things with % def bypass. Unless someone has tested it and has data to post, I think we should assume that this behavior is unknown. 

 

2. The whole damage is multiplied by (1- (sum of -% damage effects)). Subtracting the 30% from the 60% is nonsensical, because they modify different things. -% damage from (race) effects all damage, while +% damage vs race only effects physical damage based on watk and eatk (not the portion from satk).


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Posted 01 October 2014 - 07:03 AM

All I can say is defense bypassing only bypasses a players defense. Reduction is not in the same category of defense. Reduction is applied after defense.
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Posted 01 October 2014 - 07:11 AM

total damage*[1-(gear reduction%*racial reduction%*element attack reduction%*monster size reduction%*monster element reduction%*other % reduction factor)]= final damage after reduction
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