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[Gn1ydnu]

No offense but Renewal has the player power to function despite its shortcomings, so please don't derail this topic with cross server discussion.

Classic is haemorrhaging players, both casual and hardcore, due to the illegal wandering around in public and not getting slammed, and WoE just being toxic. For this player, who appears to have wrote a essay as to why Classic in a failure state, there are tons more who quit without a word.

This needs to get addressed. It's not just one player who feels this way, and apparently this was reposted from a guild forum? It's not limited to here, in this little circle of 15 or so heavily opinionated Classic players. Just imagine we lost YET ANOTHER guild on Classic. WoE would turn into a ol' fashioned platonic barn-raising. PvM is dead so that's not presently worth sticking around for. A few diehards would just be playing amidst supply bots.

Sadly we can imagen losing another guild. Again, these are not new issues at all. Very few people cared when the dozens of other guilds quit and some people were happy about it!!!!

It's too little too late unless something drastic changes.

[Kadelia]

Edited by Oda, 23 October 2014 - 08:03 AM.

[Myzery]

I think everything Kaddy posted in this thread relates to RO in general.

Most of the issues are issues on both servers and if they were solved, it would make RO a better place for everyone who plays.

[Xellie]

Most of the issues in the OP were classic specific. I may just need to learn to read tho.

[Necrohealiac]

lol i wonder who's the poster with a 4 day old account and 4 posts total?  living under the bed like a true troll as well.

Edited by Necrohealiac, 23 October 2014 - 07:37 AM.

[Facekiller]

Most of the issues in the OP were classic specific. I may just need to learn to read tho.

 

the issues in the OP may have been directed towards classic but alot of those problems are alot the same problem on renewal...
tho it is much more pressing for classic with its smaller population and the impact these problems would have there, they are still a huge problem on renewal... they are just harder to deal with on renewal... i do feel classics RMT/duping/cheating problems should be dealt with first (since it would be easier to deal with since there are simply less people to deal with) and then use that as a precedent for actions to be taken on renewal... but i do agree that this thread was driven completely off topic with the idea of a new renewal server....

[IcedCafeMocha]

 

 the players care much more than the staff do.

 

I wish this wasn't true, it's been this way a long time and are still slow to learn where to correct mistakes and make advances. A timeline of requests and getting things done was never a pro for "iRO" and anyone would believe they we're sending physical mail and having to retype every tiny ounce of code sent, for the help the unpaid contributors do make me wonder how much time and money is actually spent on our server, how many GMs actually doing work? and is it enough.

[Deliberation]

 

I decided to think about things a bit more deeply. I was MVPing today and I have the MVP to myself, nobody sees me kill it for at least 4 spawns. I always go early before variance to see if there is an opposition, do I need to call for help?

At the exact moment variance was to start, another player logged in and started searching. I've heard other players complain about this but I always wrote it off as luck or coincidences.

 

As I mentioned earlier, I can't trust anything in this game anymore. It's always the same players who are "lucky" as gaining these MVP times too. </tinfoilhat>

During my thinking I looked deeper at the guild issues. A guildmaster is expected to provide HE gum and a VIP account in order to receive equal rewards to other players? This is madness. Why are event rewards affected by the player's account VIP status or cash shop items? Of course, the guildmasters could buy this off the market, having to work ridiculously hard to fund raise vs those who simply drop cash.
They can't even buy the gum/VIP with castle drops, as they are so worthless. ACAs are a terrible blight on the value of castle loot value, slashing it to 1/3 of what it should be.

 

[Kadelia]

The issues are largely with game management as I pointed out, which is not a problem unique to classic. If game management and intervention are curbed unilaterally, it'd be better for both servers.

[Oda]

Please keep the discussion in this thread Classic focused. Though many of the problems also apply to Renewal, the response and discussion here should be focused on Loki. 

[Hrishi]

Been trying to make posts like this for months now. When there is no point to playing because everything you do can be done by somebody else through cheating, why am I wasting my time?

[Hrishi]

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Edited by Hrishi, 23 October 2014 - 08:24 AM.

[Kadelia]

Please keep the discussion in this thread Classic focused. Though many of the problems also apply to Renewal, the response and discussion here should be focused on Loki.

You should help the proxied poster by renaming the thread then. Something like "[classic] how do we stop players from quitting?"

The opening post just reads as someone expousing disallusionment with cheating, rmt, etc, which doesn't speak strongly of it being a classic reformation thread and more of a social commentary on players reasons for quitting ro in general.

So if you want the discussion to be narrow it should be clearly defined from the outset.

Thanks in advance.

[cory]

Within a month of coming back from a 4+ year break, I see new people getting stuff that automatically raises a flag in my head....

 

but now its been 1 month, I'm already getting so used to seeing people so new to the game with MVP/God Items (seeing a upward trend in Megs and FBH cards) carded gear out the butt and ask me questions a novice could figure out.  Call it social conditioning, it's still wrong.

[juxtapposed]

At least the GM's aren't corrupt unlike *cough* 피 알 오 *cough* in which there was this one GM who favored players who have loads of money.
 

 

 

Note:

In 피 알 오, MVP cards can only be obtained through hypermart.

[Necrohealiac]

At least the GM's aren't corrupt unlike *cough* 피 알 오 *cough* in which there was this one GM who favored players who have loads of money.
 

 

 

Note:

In 피 알 오, MVP cards can only be obtained through hypermart.

 

that's going to be true no matter where you go.  in the US, if your parents decided to donate a library/tennis court to a prestigious college your chances of being accepted are basically guaranteed provided you don't have like a D average in high school.

[DarkGazer]

I find it kinda funny and/or sad how we've been told to focus on the topic right now, but not one official comment about the topic itself popped up.

I'm just sayin'...

Edited by DarkGazer, 23 October 2014 - 02:01 PM.

[Divine]

I find it kinda funny and/or sad how we've been told to focus on the topic right now, but not one official comment about the topic itself popped up.

I'm just sayin'...

 

^ GM team is investigating it..

[Xellie]

^ GM team is investigating it..