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[faku1810]

I can't believe i actually have to suggest such a dumb change, but this is annoying, completely annoying.

 

People are spamming public chat all the time, posting "WTS/WTT/WTB/LFP/LFG/LFM/looking for whatever i can to annoy you" etc etc..

 

and that's not the worst part though, because even if there are Trade and Party channels for that purpose, i wouldn't really mind someone asking once in a while to sell or if someone can help, etc. The problem is they spam it.

Those who are used to having only public chat enabled in a tab will know that public goes slow usually, so even if you post once every 10 minutes, you're sure to be read by a lot of people. So then you have these guys that spam 3-4 messages one after the other, and then don't read the replies. The ONLY explanation i can find is the one that motivates this post: They use "All" tab and don't know how to turn chats off.

 

So they see Party &  Trade infinite spam stream, and they think Public goes just as fast too, so they end up spamming to be read. A funny fact, indeed, is that if you separate Trade and Party in different tabs as well, you'll see they spam for no reason at all, since you can see 3-4 posts of the same player one after the other, and sometimes only a few players are actually posting there.

 

My solution, and i'm begging you to do it, is to turn off those two chats by default, or make them separate tabs, i don't know, whatever you can come up with and it's easy to do. Because that'd would let them see that public is just a relaxed chat that goes slow, and doesn't need to be spammed to get others' attention. Please, please, do it.

Edited by faku1810, 24 October 2014 - 10:51 PM.

[Tonitrua]

The option already exists for anyone who wants to turn those channels off, right click the tab and turn them off.

Edited by Tonitrua, 24 October 2014 - 07:59 PM.

[faku1810]

The option already exists for anyone who wants to turn those channels off, right click the tab and turn them off.

 

You seem to have missed my point Tonitrua... I KNOW i can turn off the chats, most people who chats in public turns the other two off.

 

The problem is that some people don't know or don't care about turning them off, so they use "All" tab and see a spamming stream, then they think public is like that too and spam there. No offense intended but please re-read the post or ask me to clarify whatever you didn't understand in my post.

 

Edit: to make it a bit more clear

 

Spammer Point of view :

Spoiler

1.Public[spammer] HELP ME PLS NEED SM

3.Party [grinder] LFP OSI RANGER ML11 HERE

1.Public[randomign] Hahaha

2.Trade [seller] WTS STUFF NOW WM!

1.Public[spammer] HELP ME PLS NEED SM

2.Trade [seller] WTS STUFF NOW WM!

3.Party [grinder] LFP OSI RANGER ML11 HERE

1.Public[randomign] ik what you mean.

1.Public[spammer] HELP ME PLS NEED SM

1.Public[randomign] spammer, stop it, we can read you.

3.Party [grinder] NEED HEALER FOR MUKA

3.Party [grinder] NEED HEALER FOR MUKA

2.Trade [seller] WTB STUFF WM PRICE

1.Public[spammer] HELP ME PLS NEED SM

1.Public[spammer] HELP ME PLS NEED SM

 

Public chatter Point of view

 

1.Public[spammer] HELP ME PLS NEED SM

1.Public[randomign] Hahaha

1.Public[spammer] HELP ME PLS NEED SM

1.Public[randomign] ik what you mean.

1.Public[spammer] HELP ME PLS NEED SM

1.Public[randomign] spammer, stop it, we can read you.

1.Public[spammer] HELP ME PLS NEED SM

1.Public[spammer] HELP ME PLS NEED SM

Edited by faku1810, 24 October 2014 - 09:33 PM.

[Tonitrua]

I know what you meant, but I think the majority of people have no idea that you can customize your chat tabs in the first place - that's why that situation you're describing arises to begin with. They don't realize that you can view just public, or just trade, so they think it's all one big spam-fest. If you have those channels disabled by default then that large majority of people will probably never know they're there at all.

 

Maybe they can be split up into different tabs by default, but to be honest I think people who spam are always going to spam no matter what changes are made.

[faku1810]

I know that, and i agree with you, they don't know how to customize tabs, so they'd never learn to enable them, just as they never learn to disable them now. So yes, i agree they'd ignore the other chats completely, but there has to be a solution; at least, they should enable Public chat by default in the Chatting tab (iirc it's turned off there).

 

The main point is that they SEE that Public goes at a slow pace. In fact, all the chats could go at a slow pace if people actually had them in different tabs, because you can see they aren't over-used, it's just the illusion of having them all together that makes you think you need to spam to be read.

 

(On a side note, Combat is the most useless tab... i only use it for party chat; so they could modify All and Combat tabs to be Trade and Party respectively, since System and Chatting are the most used i think.. but i don't know, that could be discussed)

Edited by faku1810, 24 October 2014 - 10:41 PM.

[SETSUNAf6w]

Better spam prevention would be nice, some scums just don't know how to behave.

 

 

Then you get "Cannot connect to message server" huehuehue I wonder why.

[faku1810]

Better spam prevention would be nice, some scums just don't know how to behave.

 

 

Then you get "Cannot connect to message server" huehuehue I wonder why.

 

That's exactly what i meant.. if you have Trade chat alone, you can see they just spam for the sake of spamming. Having each one in a separate tab would make it easier to avoid spam, and that can't be so hard. They only need to rename the tabs and change the defaults for each one.

 

And yes, a "Silence" applied to those who post more than 3 lines in less than 1 min would be nice (i say 3 because sometimes we're explaining stuff and that can take up a couple of them)

[Tonitrua]

And yes, a "Silence" applied to those who post more than 3 lines in less than 1 min would be nice (i say 3 because sometimes we're explaining stuff and that can take up a couple of them)

 

I agree, a rate limit would be a fair solution that should cut down a lot of the spam in all channels.

[kamoteee]

I'd say, the chatbox should limit the number of times you are able to post a repetitive message in a channel, and there should be a time interval between sending those messages. Like for example, 3 times the same message and a 2-second interval. And if a player exceeds from that limit, he/she will be chat-banned for a minute or 30 seconds.

Other games are practicing this type of spamming prevention, so why not here?

Anyways, I totally agree with Sir OP, faku1810. This type of problem is getting worse in-game.

They should implement a chat-banning function so spammers could learn how to behave.

EDIT: Chat Window Changes won't be enough,IMO.
 

Edited by kamoteee, 28 October 2014 - 05:12 PM.

[Patlord]

Another thing in this game alot of player here are playing this game minor age hope there is a GM monitoring Public Chat alot using badmouth charge to experience just asking something how to do that this and he answer me Do your @ss what they heck we got tons of minor age player here playing we dont want them to see this kind community  if i had child wanna play game that has a community like this i wont let him play this im just 1 week player i notice this abusive cursing word i se public chat specially Odin server!

[faku1810]

Another thing in this game alot of player here are playing this game minor age hope there is a GM monitoring Public Chat alot using badmouth charge to experience just asking something how to do that this and he answer me Do your @ss what they heck we got tons of minor age player here playing we dont want them to see this kind community  if i had child wanna play game that has a community like this i wont let him play this im just 1 week player i notice this abusive cursing word i se public chat specially Odin server!

 

There's a filter option for that kind of words, if you change the settings. So if you had children you'd usually check that this kind of option is enabled in their game, but yeah, I agree people tend to express themselves in ways that may be inappropiate for children to see, so I would suggest to have this filter enabled by default.

[Newbermore]

I find the spam annoying as well -- very. I suggest if they can somehow add a 3sec gap for every message with the same content, that'll help decrease spam by a bit.

[Lostac]

Idea gotten from Find Party Board:

 

Trade Board. This time, with tabs for Armors/Weapons/Cards/Runes/etc.

 

Damn I'm creative. (not)

[faku1810]

Idea gotten from Find Party Board:

 

Trade Board. This time, with tabs for Armors/Weapons/Cards/Runes/etc.

 

Damn I'm creative. (not)

 

This would actually be good..... If we didn't have Auction House, if something like this was implemented it should have some kind of limitation, like "only those in the same channel can read the board", or a price on zenny for a Global post; otherwise Auction House would stop being used.

 

Btw, I want something like that for Guild recruiting too, I think we SHOULD have a way to know which guilds exist in-game, and if they're recruiting or not. I can't be the only one that finds annoying to need self-promoting on the chat or forums.

[Lostac]

Auction house will still be used. Remember that this only works when the player that posted the trade is online. And if your item is up on AH it would not really bother you when you are grinding, etc.

[kamoteee]

Idea gotten from Find Party Board:

 

Trade Board. This time, with tabs for Armors/Weapons/Cards/Runes/etc.

 

Damn I'm creative. (not)

Trade Board = Advertising ?

[Lostac]

Trade Board = Advertising ?

 

should work like party board with people posting trades instead(adding filters/sections as mentioned), we actually see trades now on our own party board right?

[kamoteee]

should work like party board with people posting trades instead(adding filters/sections as mentioned), we actually see trades now on our own party board right?

I think this would be good for the game... I like the idea of posting your trade shoutout into a specific trade board and wait for the others to make their offers through PM/Mail. But I think other people wouldn't use this type of function that much IMO, like the Party Board (since most of the players would just post in-chat that they need parties). Most of the players would rather put their shoutouts in the chatbox because most of them just want to get immediate attention from the others who are online atm. In other words, other players are just too lazy or just dumb to use it if ever that type of function would be available in-game.

Anyways, I like the Trade Board idea overall. Thumbs up, brah.