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#26 Omnipheles

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Posted 04 November 2014 - 12:26 PM

They aren't that amazing, dark pinguicula I guess or Orc hero.

i would use a +12 White Drooping Eddga for warg ranger.
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Posted 04 November 2014 - 12:34 PM

I thought atk from equip, unless it modifies your actual atk (by %) doesn't affect warg damage?


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Posted 04 November 2014 - 01:12 PM

Dex does so dolomedes card if you want dmg.
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Posted 04 November 2014 - 06:09 PM

Try it, you'll see the difference.
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Posted 04 November 2014 - 06:14 PM

So just to be sure, cards/equipment that give flat ATK help auto-warg damage?


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Posted 04 November 2014 - 06:36 PM

So just to be sure, cards/equipment that give flat ATK help auto-warg damage?

 

Yes, so FS enchants will raise warg strike damage. But %atk or EA enchants won't.

 

 

Btw, I'd put elemental resist on the headgear instead of atk increase cards like D.Pinguicula or Dolomedes. The damage increase isn't that significant anyway. For example, fire resist (Leib Omai) will certainly be useful when you wish to do Nid or Bako instances.


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Posted 05 November 2014 - 02:08 AM

But how come, according to the iRO stat calculator, it says bakonawa tattoo will increase warg damage? Is it just the fact that it is outdated?


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Posted 05 November 2014 - 04:21 AM

Yes, so FS enchants will raise warg strike damage. But %atk or EA enchants won't.

 

 

Btw, I'd put elemental resist on the headgear instead of atk increase cards like D.Pinguicula or Dolomedes. The damage increase isn't that significant anyway. For example, fire resist (Leib Omai) will certainly be useful when you wish to do Nid or Bako instances.

 

 

Unless something changed within the last couple of months, I am pretty sure flat Equip. Attack doesnt increase Warg Strikes damage.  I learned this after making a Black Wing Suit that gave 90-100 flat attack (Can't remember exactly) and it had 0 effect on warg damage.  Same went for Drooping Eddga (still awesome for basic attacks)


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#34 Memoir

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Posted 05 November 2014 - 04:39 AM

It really depends on the headgear you're carding. I usually switch headgears depending on what effect I need. On a regular basis I would say I switch between 5-7 different headgears and all have different cards.

Edited by Memoir, 05 November 2014 - 04:43 AM.

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Posted 05 November 2014 - 04:44 AM

Unless something changed within the last couple of months, I am pretty sure flat Equip. Attack doesnt increase Warg Strikes damage.  I learned this after making a Black Wing Suit that gave 90-100 flat attack (Can't remember exactly) and it had 0 effect on warg damage.  Same went for Drooping Eddga (still awesome for basic attacks)

 

From what I see using the stat calculator is that the only ATK that helps is if the equipment modifies your existing ATK, not add onto it.

 

Someone else want to weigh in on this?


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Posted 05 November 2014 - 07:40 AM

Just did some tests:
Default gears:
- +9 KB Elven
- +9 WW Set EA3
- ATK with bow: ~200+209
- ATK without bow: 105 + 4
- Warg Strike with full gear (WW set, bow): 10500 dmg

Tests:

- +9 Eddga Hat procs: default damage
- No gears : 5095 dmg (constant)
- Elven Bow only : default dmg
- WW Suit EA3 only : 5115 dmg (20 dmg increase.. *probably from the luk4 enchants*)
- Full WW Set only (no bow) : 5135 dmg (again, probably from the few dex enchants I have on WW Set)
- Sniper Goggle (4% ranged bonus) : 5095 dmg (constant)
- Water Converter on Fire Egg (academy) with bow only: default dmg

So looks like:
1. ranged bonus doesn't affect warg dmg
2. element doesn't affect warg dmg
3. warg damage is purely based on status attack (the left side of atk) as the damage drops by 50%, instead of 25% if equipment and weapon ATK were also calculated

So my comment about FS enchants appear to be wrong. My apologies :s

Edited by DeadIntern, 05 November 2014 - 02:51 PM.

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Posted 05 November 2014 - 08:51 AM

Elemental converter doesn't affect warg damage but mild wind does.
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Posted 05 November 2014 - 08:52 AM

I don't understand. Your default damage was the same as no gear? So using a bow made no difference? Or your default damage was 10,500?


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Posted 05 November 2014 - 10:09 AM

When he says default damage he means the damage was 10,500. The rest of the damages listed are the damage he got without the bow on.
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Posted 05 November 2014 - 04:26 PM

Yeah, I meant with full WW set and Elven bow, it's 10,500 dmg.

 

So basically, there's no difference in warg damage, whether you're using WW set, or any %atk / FS enchanted gears at all.

It is only calculated based on your status atk (which is doubled when you equip a bow).


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Posted 05 November 2014 - 05:11 PM

Are you able to try with a bako tattoo?


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Posted 05 November 2014 - 05:46 PM

I... can't. Sold mine months ago to get myself a FAW and HBP when they were in the box.  :p_sad:


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Posted 05 November 2014 - 07:20 PM

Bako Tattoo doesn't affect warg damage.


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Posted 05 November 2014 - 09:00 PM

I guess this means 120 dex gives the highest damage then?


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Posted 05 November 2014 - 09:36 PM

Someone invent a brand new ranger build with 120 STR please. :gg:

 

As if that'd go well.


Edited by DarkGazer, 05 November 2014 - 09:39 PM.

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Posted 05 November 2014 - 11:20 PM

Warg strike calc
http://forums.warppo...amage-calc-v23/
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Posted 06 November 2014 - 02:02 AM

 

Oh sweet, thanks! I've been trying to look for one of these.
 


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Posted 06 November 2014 - 04:55 AM

Thanks for the calculator. And from what I see, only stats, and weapon modify warg damage?


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Posted 06 November 2014 - 10:39 AM

Yeah, I meant with full WW set and Elven bow, it's 10,500 dmg.

So basically, there's no difference in warg damage, whether you're using WW set, or any %atk / FS enchanted gears at all.
It is only calculated based on your status atk (which is doubled when you equip a bow).

You can enchant it with Dex if that is what you're going for. I always prefer stat enchants rather than getting and % enchant of something else like fs or ea.

Someone invent a brand new ranger build with 120 STR please. :gg:

As if that'd go well.

This has been done and it only works for manual wargers that uses dagger + shield. Build works greats for pvping or woe specially if you are using megs.


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Posted 06 November 2014 - 01:26 PM

You can enchant it with Dex if that is what you're going for. I always prefer stat enchants rather than getting and % enchant of something else like fs or ea.

This has been done and it only works for manual wargers that uses dagger + shield. Build works greats for pvping or woe specially if you are using megs.
 

 

Doesn't that skill have a crazy long cooldown?


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