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[PervySageMarty]

Quoted from the notes section of the Demonic Fire description from iRO Wiki,

"Each hit by Demonic Fire is treated like a melee attack, and will trigger cards that act upon them."

Upon the way it is put is this to imply only cards that act upon melee attacks with trigger? What about autocast gears like a CD in mouth or Elemental Sword, and things like ROFL, will they autocast since they proc off upon melee attacks?

[sb120495]

Yes.

[Cepo]

Demonic fire plus fire expansion lvl 1, best combination for auto cast.

[aznspikey]

Demonic Fire is treated as magic attack such that it triggers Isilla Card, Runaway Magic Enchant. Used 10 Demonic Fires on 2 academy eggs, never proc'd my melee based auto-cast gears that I was wearing (CD, Elemental Sword, Vanil Hat, Speed Of Light Enchant).

 

The only reason I could think a Gene would want to have auto-cast gears proc is to kill plant mobs. If so, Summon Flora lvl 2 works wonders, multiple summons/high aspd.

[Cepo]

Demonic Fire is treated like a magic attack only when used with Fire Expansion lvl 5, which triggers acid bomb, however, when used with fire expansion at lvl 1 (with oil bottle), will keep the normal effect of demonic fire which is treated as meele and why using lvl 1 of fire expansion?, it will extend the aoe effect for 10 secs plus the 18 secs of the skill, you have 28 secs of burning aoe and by when the skills ends you will have passed the cooldown already.

 

And yeah the whole point of this build is to summon plants auto cast skills and get different items, by summoning mushrooms and using drop effect equipment.

 

Just a useful tip for those who may wanna try it, go get a weeder knife, it will pierce the plant mobs def so the mushrooms or plant you may be killing will be one shot killed.

[DrAzzy]

Cepo, you are wrong - I just went and verified.

Demonic Fire is a magical attack and does not trigger things that proc on melee attacks. I just went and set fire to fields of mushrooms repeatedly, with autocast gear on. Nothing proced.

It is useful for killing monsters with "plant-def" (were they take 1 damage from everything, so named because the herb plants are what people associate it with), but only because it inflicts burning status.

"Bypass def" effects do not bypass plant-def. Weeder knife bypasses the defense of plant race monsters, but it will not allow you to do more than 1 damage to monsters with with plant-def

[Cepo]

Then info on iro wiki should be corrected.

[PervySageMarty]

DrAzzy is correct, I am proc'ing things such as runaway magic, my isilla cards, hunterfly cards and other equips that do not differentiate between magic and physical in proc off's.

[DrAzzy]

The wiki has been corrected. 

[Havenn]

Damn, everyone knows my secret now =[

 

(this is an old one...thank Tenchu for initial discovery of a valid use XD)

Edited by Havenn, 03 November 2014 - 09:39 AM.