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[xMayhem]

So I've been checking out the guides here and the guides in iRO Wiki even, and before I mess my build up. XD

 

I would just like to ask what would be a good IB build for PvM/MvPing. I won't be doing WoE at all.

 

I just wanna MvP(my wife duos with me and she's making a Priestess)

 

Thank you so much in advance!

 

Gear-wise I have a +9 5/3/5 FS FAW, +7 Hunting Spear with 5/5 FS. 

 

Not sure if I should get a +9 Vanargand or +9 RWH. Not much of a clue armor-wise or accessory-wise either and boots-wise. 

 

I'm just using BSB + Shackle combo atm with a Safety Ring.

[xMayhem]

Should I grab a Red Twin with Hunterfly cards in it for sustain? That way I can solo TI.

[Cepo]

Try to get Carat / Vanargand +9, with the weapon I'm a 2handed RK, but if you are going for a BB+IB build, try getting a mace with high damage, hunter fly are a good option, getting a Witch Pumpkin and a Alarm mask is also good and you equip a better weapon.

[kasshin]

Get some racial reduction shields if you haven't already. They'll help out a lot.

[xMayhem]

Any idea on Stats? 

 

Also I'm still conflicted between a +9 Vana or a +9 RWH

[xMayhem]

+9 Vanargand Helm[1] > +9 Rideword Hat[1].

 

Stats you're basically going SVD as you're gonna have to be in the middle of a mob to effectively AoE with Ignition Break.

 

I see, so basically follow the iRO Wiki's IB/BB build of

 

• STR:90+
• AGI:1+
• VIT:95+ (need 100 total minimum for stun immunity)
• INT:30-50 (this build requires a lot of SP use but can be remedied with Rideword Hat or even Earth Deleter Card)
• DEX:70-90
• LUK:31 (3 points of Luk = 1 ATK. Putting points here once STR starts costing a lot can conserve points to get more ATK)

 

 

I'm using a +7 Hunting Spear atm with 5/5 FS enchants. What card would you recommend I put in it? I usually wear one-handed, since I do like the idea of having a Shield equipped.

[xMayhem]

Sounds awesome!  

 

Do Sword Guardian cards affect IB? And is it a good idea to grab a Triple Hunterfly Red Twin for sustain when soloing TI?

[Tofu]

Sword Guardians don't affect IB damage.

I would definitely get a 3x HF Red Twin Edge. It's perfect for Scarabs too, if you get in range of them (130+) and you want to solo somewhere that isn't a TI (if it's a bad week).

You don't need damage boosting cards to level with IB/BB, really. This is the kind of damage you can get without gods/mvps with a 3x HF Twin Edge:

Spoiler

The 33k-38k is from the Ignition Break, and the 7.4k-7.6k are from bowling bash (twice per hit, ~15k total)

[xMayhem]

I wouldn't need Cavalier Mastery by any chance, do I?

[Tofu]

Nope. Dragon Riding completely replaces it. You can safely reset it away, and still keep your aspd (if you have maxed dragon riding)

[RaveMaster]

Nope. Dragon Riding completely replaces it. You can safely reset it away, and still keep your aspd (if you have maxed dragon riding)

 

This ^_^ and you can use these 4 skills points for any important skill like parry or BB if you dont have they maxed yet.

[xMayhem]

I'm actually using Brandish Spear for now, since I have some trouble with Bowling Bash when soloing TI, where I target a bunch of mobs in front of me, but it only hits 1 mob.

[RaveMaster]

I'm actually using Brandish Spear for now, since I have some trouble with Bowling Bash when soloing TI, where I target a bunch of mobs in front of me, but it only hits 1 mob.

 

Hm... i see... good choice, Brandish Spear is a good AOE skill for lvl Knights/LKs that want be futures RK Spear/Shield Build.

[SaintMichael]

For the love of god please do not use the wiki build it's god awful. This is what a fully optimized Bruiser Rune Knight build looks like:

 

STR-117+3

AGI-82+3

VIT-95+5

INT-1+10

DEX-93+7

LUK-1+3

 

Also you do not need 100 VIT to gain stun immunity, luck reduces stun duration by 0.01 seconds, stun has a total duration of 5.00 seconds, this means that every 5 points of luck = 1% stun resist. That wiki build not only has excessive stun resist but it doesn't specialize in any stat category making it a an all around build instead of a specialized build. In other words it's really bad lol.

 

As far as leech gears go, it works like this:

 

1 hunter fly card, rideword hat, earth deleter card(one handed weapon with shield)(melee)

2 hunter fly cards, vanargand helm, sky deleter card(two handed weapon no shield)(melee)

 

Pirates folly is a cheap alternative to both of these, orlean's gown, nids garb or an incubus pet, variant shoes, 2 x hell poodle cards+ Umbala spirit, is the gear that you would want with both setups.    

Edited by SaintMichael, 12 November 2014 - 11:39 AM.

[Tofu]

That doesn't look like a "fully optimized" build at all. Luk gives atk too, and unless you're using a weapon with like 5000 atk, there IS a point where it's better to add luk instead of str for better damage, and it's not even that high.

Str doesn't need to total a multiple of 10 anymore. The difference between 117+3 str and 110+3 str is 7 status atk, and +3.5% more atk from your weapon.

If you went down to 110 str, you could get 47 luk, which is 15 status atk. In order for the 117 str to be BETTER, you'd have to be using a weapon with over 457 base atk. The highest in the game currently is a Pile Bunker at 450, and RKs can't even use it.


Orlean's gown is completely unnecessary. Aside from a couple runes, RKs have nothing that can be interrupted. Sky deleter doesn't return enough hp to ever make it useful, past level like level 70.

[xMayhem]

That doesn't look like a "fully optimized" build at all. Luk gives atk too, and unless you're using a weapon with like 5000 atk, there IS a point where it's better to add luk instead of str for better damage, and it's not even that high.

Str doesn't need to total a multiple of 10 anymore. The difference between 117+3 str and 110+3 str is 7 status atk, and +3.5% more atk from your weapon.

If you went down to 110 str, you could get 47 luk, which is 15 status atk. In order for the 117 str to be BETTER, you'd have to be using a weapon with over 457 base atk. The highest in the game currently is a Pile Bunker at 450, and RKs can't even use it.


Orlean's gown is completely unnecessary. Aside from a couple runes, RKs have nothing that can be interrupted. Sky deleter doesn't return enough hp to ever make it useful, past level like level 70.

 

So, basically what Saint said, except make Strength 110, and put the rest in Luk?

[SaintMichael]

That doesn't look like a "fully optimized" build at all. Luk gives atk too, and unless you're using a weapon with like 5000 atk, there IS a point where it's better to add luk instead of str for better damage, and it's not even that high.

Str doesn't need to total a multiple of 10 anymore. The difference between 117+3 str and 110+3 str is 7 status atk, and +3.5% more atk from your weapon.

If you went down to 110 str, you could get 47 luk, which is 15 status atk. In order for the 117 str to be BETTER, you'd have to be using a weapon with over 457 base atk. The highest in the game currently is a Pile Bunker at 450, and RKs can't even use it.


Orlean's gown is completely unnecessary. Aside from a couple runes, RKs have nothing that can be interrupted. Sky deleter doesn't return enough hp to ever make it useful, past level like level 70.

 

*Sigh* doesn't look fully optimized really? yeah luk gives attack but it doesn't give more weight, pseudo elemental damage, and all the other bonuses on top of that. Plus have you ever heard of str gloves which increase your attack for every 10 points of str? 7 str and 3.5% is huge, bro think about it that's like a robo eye and dark pinguicula card your turning down and for what a little resistance and 8 points of raw damage, which actually is even less with str gloves?  Although I would invest in luck as well after the new level caps come.

 

no u see 120 str is better mainly because of the 3.5%, you don't need a pile bunker for str to be superior lol any weapon is better with more percentage damage, it just depends on what gears your using with it, such as FAW, HBP, robo eye, temporal str boots, str gloves, pirate dagger I could go on...

 

Hmm yeah your right about the Orleans gown I did forget about that, in that case elemental armor or a high defense armor like ebone armor would be better instead.

 

This is just incorrect saying sky deleter is useless is like saying earth deleter is useless, which it's not. It's called compound interest, you see sky deleter recovers 100 hp per monster killed, lets say your mobbing 11 monsters at a time, 11 x 100= 1100, ten mobs later that's 11000 hp you've absorbed from sky deleter alone. Paired up with vanargand helm and 2x hunter fly cards= insane sustain. Also there's no point in earth deleter with this setup since vanargand plus nyd garb= like 3% chance to sp leech per hit.  

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

[xMayhem]

I'm wearing a +9 FAW with FS enchants, that should do instead of a Nyd Garb, right? 

[Cepo]

The point wearing the Nyd is the SP boost, based on refine and base lvl and also the SP Leech effect is havs, but FAW is much more useful, just try to get a different way for reovering the lost sp, Peuz Accs are a good option, ATK+20, SP+20 and can be enchanted with SP+100 and SP+150, basically: 270 SP on each Acc.

 

Those are high end enchants, but being optimistic you should be able to get at least a 100 SP enchant.

Edited by Cepo, 13 November 2014 - 05:55 AM.

[SaintMichael]

Yeah you can get an incubus pet as well which has the same sp leech as a nyd garb, also forgot to mention that temporal str boots give a plus 50 attack if the wearer has 120 str, you'll want to get these boots if your serious about MVPing and doing instances. Also a good armor would be armor of naga which has a chance to increase your attack per hit and can be enchanted. Peuz set is also worth looking into because you can enchant that with str bonuses as well, and it also increases wind cutter and sonic wave damage by 100%, as well as the other bonuses mentioned above^^.

[Cepo]

Black Ribbon +9 - Totally Needed for BB-IB Builds, And a very good ATK bonus in case you get any points on base AGI.

 

 

[xMayhem]

Good lord, you guys are all so helpful. @_@ I'mma keep reading this and see which piece of equipment I prioritize next. >8D

[xMayhem]

Btw guys, during TI downtimes, where should I grind? Also, what enchant(Muscle Fool and all that stuff) should I have on the Temporal Str boots, as well as the card I should put in it.

 

 

As for Skill build, is there an optimal one you guys can suggest to me? I've heard that eventually even as IB/BB I should still get DB.

Edited by xMayhem, 15 November 2014 - 06:29 PM.

[SaintMichael]

http://irowiki.org/~himeyasha/skill4/rkt.html?10HxsOHSaNdwcFHNdsISHSqnqsak1

The absolute best place to level is magma dungeon 2 105-126, then for Rune knights the best place is abyss lake 01 126-147, then you can stay in that area for the last three levels or if you can handle it, go kill accidus in abyss lake 02 or 03. Also hills lions and scaraba dungeon in the new world are good alternatives to abyss lake, if it's just not your thing.

 

Well since you asked nicely and listen I guess I'll spill the beans, for the temporal boots your going to want to enchant it with fighting spirit lvl 4, and grizzly's power. Grizzly's power will give you 200 str for 5 seconds by chance when you take physical damage, if you pair these up with str gloves you will also receive an additional 20 ATK per glove, so that's an extra 40. I'm not done there, additionally your power will then be even more amplified if you use a Tae Goo Lyeon (preferably + 9) which has a chance to increase your attack by 50 when you receive physical damage. Then to top it all off you'll want armor of naga enchanted with str+3, which has a chance to give you +20 attack when you deal physical damage. I'm to lazy to do the math but you get the idea, also you can't slot the temporal boots if you enchant it so don't worry about the card. Should also note that this setup is for MVPing and soloing instances, I recommend using one of the leech gear setups that I posted above for leveling since your dealing with an enemy that will spawn indefinitely. O yeah and may want to consider switching your FAW for a snake worm skin which is made to be paired up the temporal boots.

 

As for skill builds I do have a fully optimized build for ya, the thing is the 175 version has max dragon breath instead of dragon howling, so just keep that in mind when we finally get the new level cap patch. ^^ Copy and paste the above to see.

 

       

Edited by SaintMichael, 15 November 2014 - 10:44 PM.

[Tofu]

Something I feel I should add to this:

If you're gonna do a BB/IB build, I've found it VERY helpful to go 120 base dex, with temporal dex boots. That removes all of the fixed cast from Bowling Bash, which actually ends up making Bowling Bash alone better DPS than BB+IB, if you gear yourself properly (sword guardian twin edge).



26k-30k bowling bashes, without gods/mvps/temporal boot procs.