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#1 GoldenAura

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 06:29 AM

So I decided to make a move as a concerned citizen. Based on my observations, players are slowly quitting, if not too lazy to play ROSE Online, or many other reasons to mention here. Recently I've decided to play ROSE seriously and invest quite a money already (take note real money, well for me a 1,000 peso bill (PH money) is quite high for a game expense). Anyhow, ROSE has been really close to me, I don't know why but this used to be my stress reliever but now it has become my stress producer. Leveling, farming, and many other things that used to be fun is now in layman's term boring (or so I thought). I wouldn't waste any more time reminiscing the past but rather focus on what to improve. So here are my list of suggestion for you GMs out there. Take note this is only a suggestion but it may give you new ideas on reviving the old ROSE wherein people are very active whether in leveling, vending, PvPs, and the like.

 

1.) Posters

 

God I quitted a year ago and the poster are still the same. Posters are the best way to attract players since it will trigger their first impression about the game. With posters I mean, game poster in game, when it is in its loading state and this would also include poster in the official page. If I could remember it right there are only 4 to 5 posters available for download on that site.

 

2.) Promotional Videos

 

There are only 2 videos that I could watch. How will I be persuaded to play the game? Anyway, in my own perspective videos are a great way to endorse the game.

 

NOTE: GMs, got hectic schedule? Why not create a poster and video contest? For sure players would love to create their own and be acknowledge by the game and their work be used as a promotional material. Well of course winning piece should have some in game rewards. (of course they'll expect that)

 

3.) Events

 

Make an event that would also interest the newbies. With some events, only high players and rich players could actually finish and get the nice rewards. How about those little creatures wanting to be on top too? So make something about this matter.

 

Also make some new events (with new I mean new not repeated) every year so players would always expect and so they'll have something to look forward to every year.

 

Also do some commotions in Junon wherein people lax or stay AFK like maybe spawning loads of monsters that would kill all of them or maybe leaving a trail of epic drops but they'll never get it anyway or something similar to that.

 

4.) Leveling

 

*cracks knuckles* Now this is the crucial part. Now leveling should be fun to the point you're almost forgetting you're actually leveling. So my suggestions is this, make something that would interest old players with high level characters to make a new character. (Maybe a box with random super cool items when that new character reached max level e.g. 1%% drop rate of a prototype of FAITH items hahaha) Also, one reason that is why leveling is harder nowadays is because there is lower population of new players coming to ROSE so you should do something to address that problem. Maybe challenging old players to invite and bring 5000 new members in exchange of a x10 exp rate or 50% drop rate of epic +15 (just kidding) but you get the point. As long as there is a good reward waiting players would always try to do finish that task.

 

5.) Problems Arising

 

You should try to address every problems raised by the players. Some reasons of quitting are because of ignored tickets or ignored concerns. You should always try to fix and listen to their problem. Also being left hanging is the worst. When someone sends a ticket try to get back on that person as soon as possible Just even saying "Sorry but your request cannot be processed due to game rules and regulations" would be enough well of course state the reasons why it was denied. These are people with brains so probably they would understand.

 

Some suggestions are silly, I must admit but who knows it might trigger your brain into something more cool and interesting. If that happens you owe me a big time GMs. *loudest laugh of triumph* Anyway I'm not after any rewards for posting this topic (or maybe some lol) but I just want ROSE to be alive again.

 

Furthermore, I've heard there is a major change that would occur regarding the skills and damage thing, why don't you also put this into considerations before actually releasing that new update? So that when the time has come, it would really be a new ROSE Online they would download. START THE BIG CHANGE BEFORE ITS TOO LATE.


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#2 Filipito98

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 07:15 AM

Leveling isnt hard, since multi client is allowed u can online as many clients u want, and most of a
Players are bots soo resuming u can lvl up solo in a party, in like 3 days u can have like 4-6 chars lvl max, even players report that player he still dont get ban :(. That's just my opinion atm
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#3 DestinyDeoxys

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 07:44 AM

Leveling isnt hard, since multi client is allowed u can online as many clients u want, and most of a
Players are bots soo resuming u can lvl up solo in a party, in like 3 days u can have like 4-6 chars lvl max, even players report that player he still dont get ban :(. That's just my opinion atm

 

3 days ... ? Are you the old players here that assume exp hasn't changed for the past few years?

To get a max Lv.230 within 3 days is not possible. Do not use item mall as a standard because it is not. Leveling is ridiculously slow especially at the 220 - 230 brackets, it took me 2 hours per level in a Lv.50 party.


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#4 Gainfast

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 07:54 AM

I remember when i make 2 week ago new character and invite new members for Kenja party (dongas later krfawy) :D Ofc nobody know about quest kill dongas/krfwy for extra exp/money :) lazy players ^^but how help them .. BIG flag on mini map? with quests?;/

 

After all add me to friend list and ask everyday for more party or buffs ,so i think important for new players is Auto BUffer in junon/zant becasue nobody know that double client is allowed..

 

 


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#5 asuboy

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 08:10 AM

I hope soon the dev team would make up their mind and decide , a specific class with its own unique characters rather than always changing characters whenever people starting to complain about certain classes .. This is really showing in experience server to play. We have been adding and nerfing classes for the past a year or two, maybe its time to decide a specific characters on its unique skills designed. Maybe give a break on exp and refining for the new comers ...
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#6 HoneyBunz

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 08:33 AM

1. I guess posters would be a good idea. Tbh I didn't realize we had some on the website until now since they aren't a big deal to me personally.

 

2. A contest for a poster or video might be fun, depending on the rules and requirements.

 

3. Some events (like the Thanksgiving one that's going on right now) are for fairly low levels. I'm sure this one could be done by anyone around lvl 30. The Halloween event that ended recently was also for pretty much all players. The idea of spawning monsters in Junon is horrible tho. People have the right to afk if they want to and people that vend have the right to know that their shops are safe. There was a lot of unhappiness during the Halloween event because some players thought it was funny to lure the nighttime monsters to the shops in order to have them killed. Also bear in mind that when you are killed by a monster, you lose experience. Cities are safe zones and should remain that way

 

4.I just started playing here in late May-early June and I found the leveling to be pretty easy, between repeatable quests and OT. The last few levels were challenging, but I expected that since they are the last levels. Btw I never once used a macro and only tried Sikuku Ruins twice. We leveled by normal playing and got to 200 in MoG. Then we went to Orlo and did valor quests and killing quests till 230.

 

5. I think you're confusing this server with other Rose servers in regards to tickets. Here you will get a reply within 48 hours except in very few rare cases. Possibly people aren't always happy with the answer they got but that's not the same as a ticket being ignored. If someone feels they need a better explanation, they can always ask for one in their ticket even if the ticket is closed. You just have to make an account so you can check your tickets online.

 

As for upcoming changes- anyone can download Pegasus so imo no one has the right to complain later if they choose not to test proposed changes and provide their input on them while they are in the testing phase.

 

Just a side note- I'm certainly in favor of more new players but there actually are new players every day right now. Lately I've spent a lot of time in Zant, Luxem, El Verloon and Anima as I continue to work on getting the last parts for another Turkey Shooter and every time, I've seen new people training. So while things can always be improved, it's important to see that things are not so dire as some people would like you to think.


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 08:41 AM

@Destiny:

You are exaggerating, a no-life party of good players can lvl from 1-230 within 4-5 days. (without medals)


Edited by SlowBob, 21 November 2014 - 08:42 AM.

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 08:56 AM

Nicht mehr so leicht, bob - leveln ist wirklich ekelhaft geworden :(

+1 for this - the cinematics exist since beta I think


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 09:13 AM

@Destiny:

You are exaggerating, a no-life party of good players can lvl from 1-230 within 4-5 days. (without medals)

 

You do know the exp system within a party is changed right? You will consider a burden for the party if you don't at least deal with 1 damage to the mob, so if you are not an AOE, you are considered a leecher. Only AOEer such as spear, sword, mage, knights, cleric are the best candidates to level, but just because they can level fast doesn't mean you should ignore the lousy leveling characters such as artisan, katar, dual, xbow scout/knight, bow scout, axe champ, this game isn't all about AOEers.

The only level brackets that is bottable is from Lv.40 to 60 (krawfy), Lv.61 to 80 (goblin B3), Lv.81 to 140 (oblivion temple), Lv.141 to 200 (sikuku ruins), after Lv.200 sikuku ruins will become really slow and you have to go to orlo. You would still need about 5 days to get from Lv.1 to 200 even if you no life, and assuming you can level in ruins peacefully without getting PKed. The Lv.201 to 230 brackets is the critical point that you can't keep the Lv.50 party anymore due to weekly server maintenance, it will slow you down so much and you will have to use a noob squad to get a new Lv.50 party to bridge it back to the Lv.200+. And as mentioned before, if you don't use item mall for this brackets, you basically get 1 level every 2 hours in a Lv.50 party because there is no bottable area for this brackets, you would need to lure 24/7. I do not think we should assume any no-lifeness here because no one can stare at the monitor 24/7 to lure, you can only lure 3 hours per day at max on average, that's like saying you need level 3 weeks to get from Lv. 201 to 230.

 


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 09:34 AM

1 day to lvl 100, other day to 160/180 (if no problems) other day to 200/210 anleast or even more, no im needed.
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Posted 21 November 2014 - 09:35 AM

Sounds like we should do a no-lifer lvling event once :P

Only 3 hours per day in a no-life party? Try luring in shifts, then you can easily reach 6h.


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 09:40 AM

1 day to lvl 100, other day to 160/180 (if no problems) other day to 200/210 anleast or even more, no im needed.

 

and 210/230 ?


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 09:42 AM

We should make a no-life party and do an experiment. I'm in.


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 09:47 AM

Once i got a spare week i'll message you :P


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 09:50 AM

Sounds like we should do a no-lifer lvling event once :P

Only 3 hours per day in a no-life party? Try luring in shifts, then you can easily reach 6h.

 

We should make a no-life party and do an experiment. I'm in.


If that can prove everyone in the world can eat 60 hotdogs within 10 minutes, then sure, this experiment will be totally worth it. :p_idea:

Leonis should make a no-life leveling event, whoever can get to 230 within a week gets a free Aurum CG, sounds good?


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 09:54 AM

Destiny.. I am one of the few.. That actually lured and lvled 8 hours per day from 210-230.. Yes i have no life and i only stopped to go to the loo and also ordered delivery for food.. So yes it is possible :x
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Posted 21 November 2014 - 09:57 AM

Sounds like a candidate for that experiment! :p_hi:


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 10:01 AM

God bless America (ROSE)... :p_swt:


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 10:41 AM

Just leveled in Orlo for 3 hours alone since there's no one around. I got 3.6% EXP at level 211. Yay~ :p_laugh:

Next is with quests...


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 11:08 AM

For someone just starting, it is impossible to level to 230 in 3-4 days which I think is the original point which I would prefer however, the concern is to get new players, not no life events.  I'd rather see the gm's and dev comment about how they plan to get new people to come on and KEEP the new players.  The new players that you do see in zant or what not, won't survive in this game at 220+ so they usually quit.  That's how it is and how it will be if no action for new players is taken.  


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 11:28 AM

I started a character on a monday (two weeks ago or so) made it 230 on Sunday. That involved the use of about 8 Trainee Medals, 2 sigils of brilliance (1hr) and 1 sigil of brilliance (6hrs).

 

Doing it in the same time without IM is impossible unless you (succesfully) bot even while u sleep, which is considered illegal and therefore not an option.


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 11:30 AM

i was like 8/9 hours full luring wen i was 210++ o. o, it was fun xD, soo yah im one of them also o. o (no-life), but well i stoped playing (as u guys already know cuz i posted like IN MANY POSTS), and even i sitll a no-life o. o XD, .... i miss dat day, 9 hours luring, wow best experience ever, i used the training medals in 225++ o.o


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 12:08 PM

I'm sorry to point this out... but every single person there claiming that lvling is easily doable within 3 or 4 days are openly claiming that they are botting... what is it again with those so called "no life party" ... luring in shift you said? and who s aoeing? The team are to soft on that issue, if it was up to me... everyone using a bot would get a straight ban. (and multiclienting wouldn't be allowed... ofcourse...)

 

That said... lvling isn't thaaat long... in theory, having to grind even 4 hours for a lvl past lvl 200 isn t that bad at all... but doing it alone... because every maps are empty and no one ever party anymore in the world maps once they reach lvl 230... this is horribly boring. Same goes for low level brackets tho... it s either you bot and level easy... or you try to play actively... fail to find a party.. and end up all alone.

Connecting several account to party with yourself is an abomination... no single mmo players would ever think about doing such a thing but the ROSE players! I can assure anyone that there is not a single real new comer that would think about creating multiple accounts... with several classes... only to be able to lvl 1 single character... and this anyway... is barely achievable without the use of any bots.

 

-> program an auto ban for any account detected using a 3rd party program 

-> make it impossible again to log more than 1 account at a time

-> gg.... winning!

 

Edit : rent the service of an hacking shield program... spend some of your income... but save the game... how does that sound? ofc some smartasses will be able to bypass it... but they would be very easily detectable... and would very deserve their perma ban.


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#24 MidnightSmurf

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 12:59 PM

I think you might have missunderstood the 'no-life' bit. At least when I wrote it myself it includes sitting infront of the computer clicking manually :) Hopefully with some friends to chat with.

A program like that would sure be nice. If they can't do that or afford that, pick one, then I'd suggest an in-game report button so that reporting botters/zulie-sellers/offensive language would be made easier.

 


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 06:45 PM

ROSE now is not like what it was, Mauro-chan.


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