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[ShinobiEX3]

Yea there was a old post about this and ill repost it here

 

From :GraydroZ

 

I have found some test results, but they are in tRO though.

 

Link: +12 Guillotine Katar and +13 Bloody Roar Testing

 

Cross Impact skill is used in all scenarios

1. +12 Guillotine Katar [1] with Skel Worker Card (2922 per hit)
2. +12 Guillotine Katar [1] with Hydra Card (2555 per hit)
3. +12 Guillotine Katar [1] with Memory of Thanatos Card (4208 per hit)
4. +12 Guillotine Katar [1] with Incantation Samurai Card (3805 per hit)
5. +13 Glorious Bloody Roar (2465 per hit)

However, if other skills other than CI are used, +13 Glorious should out DPS? (Except may be vs. +13 Guillotine Katar with Memory of Thanatos )

EDIT: Change from +13 Guillotine Katar [1] to +12

 

Wondering Which one is better out side of demi human damage or Woe/PVP?

Like a over all out come which one is best for pvm,mvp?

 

 

[Havenn]

Don't forget, G. katar can even be enchanted =o....so, enchanted and +13 could be pretty nuts esp with thanatos, best katar ever lol

 

 

s> G. katar FS2

[ShinobiEX3]

Isnt that breakable if u try to enchant it also making it +13 is a exhorbit amount of HD ores. Not to mention a Thana card.

[ShinobiEX3]

also how much for the G katar FS 2?

and is that the best enchant for it

[Havenn]

Yea...it breaks easily 20% on blood thirst, 30% on will of warrior......but go big or go home eh? XD

[ShinobiEX3]

is that the max enchant on it?

[Havenn]

Nah, you can get FS3/3

[ShinobiEX3]

man oh man the 30% break how much are those katars

[Havenn]

5-600m

[ShinobiEX3]

oh dam.

Can any one test a kvm +12 and a Thana gk +12 with other skills other than CI and CTRL click damage

[Darksorrow1234]

ask Game Queen 

[Ashuckel]

her its +10 Penetration GK, but i think it will do it

[ShinobiEX3]

tried no answer

[Balthronus]

I've been testing gx katar vs chakram/sin cuff combo and gx katar has been coming out on top on auto attacks. Using temp luck boots with 120 luk though.

[ShinobiEX3]

thats a good input thanks for the info for Crit Balthronus.

 

can you tel lme the avg numbers on both if u can and the upgrades as well and if they are carded?

[OniichanN]

I've been testing gx katar vs chakram/sin cuff combo and gx katar has been coming out on top on auto attacks. Using temp luck boots with 120 luk though.

 

 

thats a good input thanks for the info for Crit Balthronus.

 

can you tel lme the avg numbers on both if u can and the upgrades as well and if they are carded?

 

This. Really interested now.

 

PS. Anyone trusts me enough to lend a GX katar for testing purposes? :>

[Balthronus]

Both my weapons at the moment are only +9 and the range is damage is only marginal. At plus +12~14 the difference should be greater.

[ShinobiEX3]

ill prob get my hands on a +12 gk soon i hope ^.^ but i have a +12 kvm gbr so i can do normal mob attacks with it.

This was agaisnt a Petal monster by Blooming Flower Land (ecl_fild01)

Let me know if i have to attack other monsters!

1832 first slash 385 second slash

18-20k Cross impact range damage

4k-5k Rolling cutter

13k CRS 1 counter

27k CRS with 10 counters

 

No EDP was used can some one test with a +12 GK

 

 

 

PS. Was the Chakram combo with aunoe cars and enchants + LFH with arrow are just the chakram with cuff?

Edited by ShinobiEX3, 29 November 2014 - 11:26 PM.

[Balthronus]

Comparison was a +9 chakram (2x Aunoe +2 aspd) with sin cuffs and luck boots with 120 luck i was also using +9 white eddga vs a +9 gx katar (1x aunoe) with the same gear. Need further testing but damage on porings and scaraba halls was greater with gx katar. Will post numbers later when I get time. The incentive is a free accessory slot for another bakonawa tattoo or meginjard.

[Ashuckel]

GX katar has way more atq than Chakram, its a lvl 4 weapon as well, no surprise being stronger

[OniichanN]

^ True, but I was interested how much the +40% crit damage compares (also higher enchants on the chakram, Havenn mentioned fs3/3 is max for the gx katar while chakram can get fs 8/8 (I've never seen higher, is 9 or 10 possible at an extremely low rate?) and an additional card slot. Then again, you get a free acc slot with the gx katar which is more valuable imo). Guess it's time to save up for one...

[Balthronus]

GX katar has way more atq than Chakram, its a lvl 4 weapon as well, no surprise being stronger

Without 120 luck and temp luk boots it's not. The extra card and sin cuffs have long made it a better choice.

[Havenn]

Even if you went 120 luk and had 2xAK in the chakram instead of 2xAunoe?

[Balthronus]

Even if you went 120 luk and had 2xAK in the chakram instead of 2xAunoe?

At a guess no. Gx katar still wins in damage... Maybe not at +9 but anything higher probably will. I've only gone and done math and attack formula's for aunoe though. Basically it comes down to 200 * 1.9 = 380 vs 130 * 2.5 = 325. Of course this isn't the proper formula but it does serve it's purpose as an example. Level 4 weapon vs level 3 also adds to the gap.