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#1 7771131126040331787

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Posted 10 December 2014 - 03:38 PM

Hi guys, i havnt play RO for more than 5 years and after returning to iRO all the skills and items just leave a bunch of questions to me. 

 

I am hoping to be able to do MVP farm in the future as RK ( im still LV.90 LK at this moment)

 

What are some items that i should definitely look into buying and what skills are benefit from these items? 

 

I am hoping to go for Dragon breath but is it viable farming MVP or is it only good for WOE? 

 

As i posted an earlier under " market" , i have about 300 mill to spend at this time and im can certainly get more through karfa point item sell so dont be shy giving advice about what items to buy. 

 

A little bit over 1 billion is my budget for now.

 

 

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Posted 12 December 2014 - 12:41 PM

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Posted 12 December 2014 - 12:48 PM

RK's can kill MvP's but very slowly. In any dps race, you will lose to other MvP classes. RK is more of a WoE class than MvP.

To farm MvP's you want a Genetic.
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Posted 12 December 2014 - 12:49 PM

DB build is pretty different from all LK builds except a mainly tanking build. But some "transferable" gear would be Variant Shoes / Enhanced Variant Shoes, any HP/SP gear, any reduction gears (shield/garment), elemental armors, healing boosters like Witch Hat + Alarm Mask (Rudolf works the same just during christmas season).
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Posted 12 December 2014 - 12:57 PM

RK's can kill MvP's but very slowly. In any dps race, you will lose to other MvP classes. RK is more of a WoE class than MvP.

To farm MvP's you want a Genetic.

 

Not at all anymore, RK can destroy gene some places now.


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Posted 12 December 2014 - 01:46 PM

If you are not too prone to like "casting" skills, you might not like the playstyle of Dragon Breath.  You would also need to keep your SP and HP at 100% at all times to do 100% damage from DB.  Ignition break and Sonic Wave 5 with Peuz Set + Black Ribbon has the highest damage per second compared to DB and Hundred spears.  Also with Peuz set, Bowling bash would be obsolete due to Wind cutter doing slightly more damage; however, you have to position yourself very weirdly with Wind cutter.  

 

But now with Peuz set, you would lose all elemental reductions from waterball 9000.  That crap hurts more than a naggy ex gf.


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Posted 12 December 2014 - 01:51 PM

You don't need 100% sp to do 100% db. It's current hp &max sp, and now ranged mods with the update
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Posted 12 December 2014 - 01:56 PM

Only HP needs to be 100% to do maximum damage. ~90% or whatever is fine too as long as it's not affecting the number of hits you need to kill your target. Only MAX sp is looked at and not CURRENT, so you can be near-depleted in SP and still do the same damage.

IB probably does do more damage per second than DB under regular circumstances yeah, but DB will out-DPS it with magic strings or other cast reduction / cast delay situations. There will be lots of factors affecting the difference between the two of course but generally IB is better solo and DB is better with party support.
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Posted 12 December 2014 - 02:00 PM

DB can be completely instant cast with 90% delay as well - with absolutely no support. Even a real mighty Acid Bomb can't get up to that DPS - esp, as an AOE.

 

So........its not much of 'casting' rather spam clicking at that point


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Posted 12 December 2014 - 02:14 PM

DB can be completely instant cast with 90% delay as well - with absolutely no support. Even a real mighty Acid Bomb can't get up to that DPS - esp, as an AOE.

So........its not much of 'casting' rather spam clicking at that point

max after cast delay reduction via gears is actually 95% ;D
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Posted 12 December 2014 - 02:19 PM

So you guys are saying that DB build is the better one?
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Posted 12 December 2014 - 02:45 PM

Depends.....*lol diapers*

 

Every RK needs Dragon breath.  Question is either IB or HS.

 

 

You don't need 100% sp to do 100% db. It's current hp &max sp, and now ranged mods with the update

 

 

Thanks.  Saved me from spamming strawberries  /wah


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Posted 16 December 2014 - 07:34 PM

LOL, after so many years of not playing RO, it seems that genetics are still owning. haha mayne the game hasnt change all that much lol

RK's can kill MvP's but very slowly. In any dps race, you will lose to other MvP classes. RK is more of a WoE class than MvP.

To farm MvP's you want a Genetic.

 


That's great to know. such as where?

Not at all anymore, RK can destroy gene some places now.

 


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Posted 16 December 2014 - 07:36 PM

appreciate your input. ill dig into black ribbon 

If you are not too prone to like "casting" skills, you might not like the playstyle of Dragon Breath.  You would also need to keep your SP and HP at 100% at all times to do 100% damage from DB.  Ignition break and Sonic Wave 5 with Peuz Set + Black Ribbon has the highest damage per second compared to DB and Hundred spears.  Also with Peuz set, Bowling bash would be obsolete due to Wind cutter doing slightly more damage; however, you have to position yourself very weirdly with Wind cutter.  

 

But now with Peuz set, you would lose all elemental reductions from waterball 9000.  That crap hurts more than a naggy ex gf.

 


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Posted 16 December 2014 - 07:37 PM

Sorry you mean ranged mod by ? kingsbird? 

You don't need 100% sp to do 100% db. It's current hp &max sp, and now ranged mods with the update

 


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Posted 16 December 2014 - 07:41 PM

The only concern i have is that inorder to do 100% damage  on IB , i have the impression that i need to get to at least job 25 ? where as i can achieve lv10 DB at lv 15 ? 

 

Of course, i didnt take account the base level different i might have but wouldnt going DP rout faster for beginner ?

 

Or do you think a 10 lv job different isnt significant at all. 

Only HP needs to be 100% to do maximum damage. ~90% or whatever is fine too as long as it's not affecting the number of hits you need to kill your target. Only MAX sp is looked at and not CURRENT, so you can be near-depleted in SP and still do the same damage.

IB probably does do more damage per second than DB under regular circumstances yeah, but DB will out-DPS it with magic strings or other cast reduction / cast delay situations. There will be lots of factors affecting the difference between the two of course but generally IB is better solo and DB is better with party support.

 


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Posted 16 December 2014 - 07:44 PM

Let's say i max out DB as soon as possible and change all my stats to pure DB ( not sure what base level ill be), under what stats or items will it be effective to go solo leveling with DP ?

 

 

 

 

DB can be completely instant cast with 90% delay as well - with absolutely no support. Even a real mighty Acid Bomb can't get up to that DPS - esp, as an AOE.

 

So........its not much of 'casting' rather spam clicking at that point

 


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Posted 16 December 2014 - 10:05 PM

The "ultimate" solo DB setup involves two expensive MVP cards on upper and mid, Kiel-D cards. Which is usually beyond the scope or budget of people asking questions here.
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Posted 16 December 2014 - 10:10 PM

lmao. sorry for being a creep and reply so fast but im just board during my reviewing for exam. 

 

lol , anyways, what are we talking about here, 100 USD ? 300 ? or even more then im going to puke . lol 

The "ultimate" solo DB setup involves two expensive MVP cards on upper and mid, Kiel-D cards. Which is usually beyond the scope or budget of people asking questions here.

 


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 07:04 AM

Kiel-D-01 cards are about 15-18b each.....not sure how much that is in USD but prob more than you expected XD.

 

Currently trying to get these for myself.....it's a long road. I have so many very respectable MVPing characters, but my RK is nowhere near ready to be a beast. (you also need a tao to be insane on RK)


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 07:43 AM

(you also need a tao to be insane on RK)

 

No, you don't.


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Posted 17 December 2014 - 08:09 AM

Bryn will do? (idk I have never worn a tao to test =/)

 

I guess if you have the insta and the delay 90% reduct, it doesn't really matter too highly that you're doing max DPS. The DPS alone from that DB is prob enough to be pretty gross eh?


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