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[Frah]

Think it would be possible to have a icon appear on the computer's toolbar where the battery & volume icons are, that alerts you when you have a PM from a player in-game. Because lets face it, trying to get ahold of someone selling something you want to negotiate for, is a pain in the posterior because they are either afk or dual-clienting on a window covering the one that gets the PM.

Edited by Frah, 16 December 2014 - 05:46 AM.

[Necrohealiac]

probably not feasible. you can turn on ping notifications (i.e. sound) in game when someone enters your chat i believe. i believe the command is /ting or something in order to just have that sound enabled and everything else off.

[Perezoso15]

I'd like it if you could enable a "chat window" to be created along the ones you already have when someone pms you without it being in the annoying pop up form.

[Tofu]

/tingonly

[Sizzleboom]

Imagine if a smartphone app existed to that allowed you to keep track of your in-game messages while you go get a drink or go for a jog, ha ha. Now that would be awesome.

[Necrohealiac]

sometimes a break from the game is good D:

[Inubashiri]

Other games have specific chat system public APIs that allow 3rd party folks to make such additions like for instance a chat app for LoL on your Android phone.  RO doesn't exactly have such a thing, it would have to be created, something similar to IRC.  It would be a rather heavy lift and WPs IT staff is not always receptive to such things, speaking from experience.  It would have to have some thing probably on the firewall level looking for PMs or Guildchat and relaying that to said chat service that would then send to the app client.

[Facekiller]

sounds good in theory until you get 50 messages from gold seller sites every other minute

[AlmrOfAtlas]

There are several programs out there that can hook into the client and parse that stuff. A certain illegal program already has this exact functionality with a community plugin.

 

Wouldn't be a stretch.

[Xellie]

RCX can relay chat to your irc client and vice versa, so this shouldn't be a stretch tbh

[Inubashiri]

I don't wanna give the spammers another tool to annoy people with tbh

[Necrohealiac]

we should have a whitelist system; everyone is blocked by default unless you allow them to talk to you. sure it's inconvenient to start out with until you add the people you want to talk to but it stops spam forever (unless someone who was whitelisted was hacked. then you can just remove them temporarily).

Edited by Necrohealiac, 18 December 2014 - 02:37 PM.

[Xellie]

I don't wanna give the spammers another tool to annoy people with tbh

 

what ifffff you took something like an open source im client and made a plugin so that it would send and receive through that but only work if you have them added on the im thing.
 

[Necrohealiac]

it would send and receive through that but only work if you have them added on the im thing.

sounds a lot like a whitelist

[Xellie]

Well they wouldn't technically be receiving from the character the player is on, but from their IM account.

[Inubashiri]

No but the server still would be and tbh the second concern I'd have is attacks.

[Xellie]

it could be on a different server no?

[Inubashiri]

If its going to be official (i.e. done by WP or Section 9), its gotta rely on something that relays.

 

Character 1 with Client 1 sends PM to Character 2 with Client 2

 

Client 1 -> Game Server -> Client 2

 

If its an IM system it would be:

 

Client 1 (concurrently or not IM Client) -> Game Server (concurrently) -> 3rd Party Relay Server -> Client 2  (concurrently or not IM Client) IM Client

 

 

I think tbh also, the IM system, we can't link into current accounts for the game due to security concerns and privacy so it would be similar to ROPD, make an account, link your account to it and there ya go.

 

It would still be subject to spammers make no mistake.  As the example I listed before, LoL suffers from this problem too even with its strict buddy list system...you get random buddy requests who spam you if you accept it and defriend you with scam links.

 

 

Not saying its not possible just legitimate concerns and also kinda a heavy lift for a few people.  I wouldn't be in favor of Open Source either due to security concerns.

Edited by Inubashiri, 18 December 2014 - 05:40 PM.

[Xellie]

Oh ya I was thinking something similar to spark.

 

It's be

Client 1 > plugin > relay to IM client 1 (this means its not connected to your game acc, you'd be parsing the packet) > IM client 1 to IM Server > IM server > IM client 2

And the chat would display in game as normal. So you'd just be intercepting it and displaying it a different way.

 

 

I hope that explains what I'm thinking, but you're the feasibility expert. I'm just thinking of the way *certain* programs work with RO already.

 

But I guess there is the open source security issue to consider =/

Edited by Xellie, 18 December 2014 - 06:09 PM.

[AlmrOfAtlas]

I was thinking a custom, super barebones IRC client created in a general purpose langauge like perl (already has basic IRC functionality so why not) that hooks into your RO client when you have it running.

 

It would intercept and interpret packets and spit pub, party, guild and PM chats out, ignoring anything else besides the prereqs that RO looks for like names and IDs when sending chats. Sending chats of your own via the app would be super simple, a matter of chat type, user id and ign (utilises id and name of logged character), and the message.

 

It's possible to check your friends in this manner, so the client could automatically add the contents of your character's friends list to a global list in the IRC app, allowing players an index of ALL their friends over multiple characters. Could also link to a server on WP's end (independent of the client hook) for p2p connectivity and a "general chat" area should a player wish to share their IRC persona with you or talk beyond the game. Whether the IRC would be functional enough to message players inside the game without requiring the client active (via really simple client emulation or a gateway w/log&pass) is up to the discretion of WP I guess.

 

It's possible to expand the in-game chat using this method of communication by providing some QoL fixes, such as automatically parsing long messages into multiple messages to cater for RO's character limit for example, though the IRC would need to have flood control to prevent players from muting themselves, and possibly a message queue.

 

A certain program has most of this functionality already 

Edited by AlmrOfAtlas, 18 December 2014 - 06:47 PM.