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Posted 03 January 2015 - 05:13 AM

Is cannon spear good for leveling ??

does it affected by ranged % ??


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Posted 23 February 2015 - 08:09 PM

I know Chakri will answer here :)
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Posted 24 February 2015 - 10:07 AM

^ .... lololol I missed this thread.

 

 

1. Cannon spear is very good for leveling, at least for me. It has 0 second cast delay (meaning you can cast any skill immediately such as OB) but it has 2 second cooldown (meaning you need to wait 2 seconds before using Cannon spear again).

2. String does not remove the cooldown.

3. STR greatly affects the damages.

4. Meg is not easily accessible to everyone, but STR boots with EA 4 will help to improve damages. STR boots are also good for your OB as well. As for leveling, you might only need vit 40-50 at lvl 150.

5. With STR 120, your FAW will also give you +6% ATK. The enchants can be either EA or FS, up to you.

 

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Posted 24 February 2015 - 11:10 AM

5. With STR 120, your FAW will also give you +6% ATK. The enchants can be either EA or FS, up to you.

FAW give +6 atk, not +6% atk at 120Str.


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Posted 24 February 2015 - 02:45 PM

FAW give +6 atk, not +6% atk at 120Str.


+6 weapon attack at Str 120? I am not quite sure if this is correct. For a +1 ATK every Str 20 semms too off to be true.
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Posted 24 February 2015 - 05:40 PM

Even with %ATK, since it benefits from EA, isn't the bonus from dex more relevant than the bonus from str? [note: wiki says % and I never noticed a flat ATK increase, so yeah %]

 

STR is still more important cuz it's used as a direct multiplier to your damage, so at 120 STR you're getting at least another 600% atk damage which easily trumps the 6% you'd get from the dex bonus, but yer you get what my question is asking. 


Edited by mikayel, 24 February 2015 - 05:42 PM.

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#7 KudanSeishirou

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Posted 24 February 2015 - 09:39 PM

+6 weapon attack at Str 120? I am not quite sure if this is correct. For a +1 ATK every Str 20 semms too off to be true.

try to equip/unequip your FAW, i bet you got 20*x Str, you can see your atk increased by 1 at the status window. the same applied to magic attack. FAW gives +1atk every 20STR, and +1matk every 20INT.


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Posted 24 February 2015 - 09:52 PM

try to equip/unequip your FAW, i bet you got 20*x Str, you can see your atk increased by 1 at the status window. the same applied to magic attack. FAW gives +1atk every 20STR, and +1matk every 20INT.

 

I actually tried that and you are right about +1 ATK for every 20 STR.

 

However I dont think the description of the item is wrong. The ATK% doesnt show up on window. I think believe it is +1% ATK for every 20 STR as +1 weapon attack is more like a slap to the face xD


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Posted 26 February 2015 - 04:57 AM



However I dont think the description of the item is wrong. The ATK% doesnt show up on window. I think believe it is +1% ATK for every 20 STR as +1 weapon attack is more like a slap to the face xD

Yes, %ATK doesn't show on status window. but FAW doens't give any %ATK.

 

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Hornet : Soft Defence = 7, Hard Defence = 7

Knife atk=17. My Str = 88

Weapon attack = [ 17 + 7.48 +- 0.85 ] x100% = 23~25

Status attack = 332

Equipment attack = 4 <- FAW

W+E Attack = 27~29

 

Total attack = [(332+27~29)x4007/4070] - 7 = 346~348.

 

IF FAW also give +1%atk each 20STR then the bold part will be

W+E Attack = 27~29 x 1.04 = 28~30

so there should be 349 final damage on Hornet.

i did kill like 50 hornets, but there's no 349 at all.

 

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Note : the 506 is crit damage.


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Posted 26 February 2015 - 11:52 AM

Dear Chakri you are one of the few people who actually know that Cannon Spear is good skill like me......truely you are a blessing from Odin himself!!


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Posted 26 February 2015 - 01:18 PM

@Kudan ahh thanks for showing and correcting me. Ive never done any deep calculations >_<

@Marty honestly I never though it would be a good skill to level either. I started using Cannon spear in WoE then I really liked it. I later tried it when I made new RGs to level and wow so fun lol

Ha then you must be a blessing from Frigg herself! :P

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Posted 26 February 2015 - 02:05 PM

Hrmm, this is troubling -- do we have any doubts as to other parts of the FAW not functioning correctly? 

I'm at work now, but later I'll test it for crit % damage, atk % damage using maximize power on a smith, aspd %, and the neutral % reduction because if one part doesn't work then... well. It's basically just an enchantment container I guess. 


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Posted 26 February 2015 - 02:13 PM

%aspd, %crit work just as written (Well it would be OP if they give +1aspd each 20agi D=). the only one doesn't work is the %ATK and %MATK, instead they give +1ATK and +1MATK.

 

No comment on neutral resist. never really bother bout them.


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Posted 26 February 2015 - 02:34 PM

Any word on the % ranged attack? 


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#15 KudanSeishirou

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Posted 26 February 2015 - 02:55 PM

tested it, i think it works.


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Posted 26 February 2015 - 04:37 PM

I think its a translation/description error, if you look it up on divine pride, most all other ro have it as +1 atk, not +1% atk.
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Posted 26 February 2015 - 05:16 PM

tested it, i think it works.

 

Thanks man, very cool of you to do that.

 

Man, this is actually really -_-ty tho. Flat ATK and MATK is absolutely terrible considering how miserably low it is... if it was at least 10 per interval it would be fine and even good, or hell even 5 per interval would be OK but 1 per 20 of a stat is horrid. 

 


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Posted 26 February 2015 - 05:20 PM

I wouldnt believe it either that it gave 1 ATK per 20 STR until it was proven lmao
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