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[Akilez]

Hello Guys:

 

I am not sure if Hawkeye power could be triggered by skills such Cart Cannon, Dragon Breath or Vanishing Point... I was thinking about to buy Temp Bots with such enchant in order to increase the damage with any of the skills above.

 

 

Thanks in advance for your advices =)

[MorseCoder]

None of those skills listed are affected by DEX for damage per attack. DEX will affect the variable cast time, so that could increase your DPS if you have long cast time now. However, the SP drain could make it annoying.

 

The proc rate is about 5%. I could be wrong, but Hawkeye requires a physical attack to proc. Most skills don't count as physical attacks. Reflect damage and some skills, like Provoke, though, count as physical attacks.

Edited by MorseCoder, 19 January 2015 - 08:42 PM.

[WolfTri]

It does proc on Cart Cannon, I can confirm. Vanishing Point also procs it, most likely. Can test if you want me to. Dragon's Breath I'm not sure about, although I'm guessing probably not.

[Akilez]

None of those skills listed are affected by DEX for damage per attack. DEX will affect the variable cast time, so that could increase your DPS if you have long cast time now. However, the SP drain could make it annoying.

 

The proc rate is about 5%. I could be wrong, but Hawkeye requires a physical attack to proc. Most skills don't count as physical attacks. Reflect damage and some skills, like Provoke, though, count as physical attacks.

 

I am not really sure about DB, i heard the formula has been changed when the new B/J Expansion, maybe it was a wrong information.

It does proc on Cart Cannon, I can confirm. Vanishing Point also procs it, most likely. Can test if you want me to. Dragon's Breath I'm not sure about, although I'm guessing probably not.

 

what about MorseCoder info? ain't the DEX boost by HE will not increase the damage of the CC or VP? I thought they were both ranged skills

[Akilez]

Bump!!! @_@

[MorseCoder]

I was wrong about what can proc Hawkeye, so take my info with a grain of salt. However, this is the Dragon Breath formula:

 

 

 

{[(Caster's HP / 50) + ( Caster's MSP / 4)] × (Dragon Breath Skill Level × Base Level / 150)} × Dragon Training × Elemental modifier(1.25~2) × Ranged Damage(Expert Archer and so on) This is new DB formula.

 

Taken from here: http://forums.warppo...uildsguide-iro/

 

DEX affects ATK for bows, but DB isn't a bow, and it doesn't use ATK in its damage formula. DEX won't affect damage. The bit about "Ranged Damage" in the formula relates to ranged damage % modifiers from enchantments (Expert Archer) or equipment, like Evil Marching Hat, Airship Captain's Hat, etc.

 

Cart Cannon: Assuming the damage formula is accurate, DEX doesn't affect ATK for the weapons that Geneticists can equip, so higher DEX won't increase damage.

Banishing Point: I don't know what the damage formula is, but it's based on ATK. Same here: DEX doesn't affect ATK for the weapons that Royal Guards can equip, so higher DEX won't increase damage.

 

 

[Akilez]

I was wrong about what can proc Hawkeye, so take my info with a grain of salt. However, this is the Dragon Breath formula:

 

 

Taken from here: http://forums.warppo...uildsguide-iro/

 

DEX affects ATK for bows, but DB isn't a bow, and it doesn't use ATK in its damage formula. DEX won't affect damage. The bit about "Ranged Damage" in the formula relates to ranged damage % modifiers from enchantments (Expert Archer) or equipment, like Evil Marching Hat, Airship Captain's Hat, etc.

 

Cart Cannon: Assuming the damage formula is accurate, DEX doesn't affect ATK for the weapons that Geneticists can equip, so higher DEX won't increase damage.

Banishing Point: I don't know what the damage formula is, but it's based on ATK. Same here: DEX doesn't affect ATK for the weapons that Royal Guards can equip, so higher DEX won't increase damage.

 

Oh so nice, it is all right now, thank you guys for both of the advices, was very helpfully =)

[Gabohollow]

well, actually every 5 DEX point gives you +1 ATK (when using melee weapons), inverse to when using Ranged weapons, every 5 STR points gives you +1 ATK.

 

So, Hawkeye gives you +40 ATK (if using melee weapons) not an ultra increase but not that low either n_n (you can confirm here http://irowiki.org/wiki/Dex#DEX )

 

DB won´t be affected anyway xD

 

 

[Kadelia]

Hawkeye for those skills is a bad idea, as the amount of ATK added (~ 40) is not worth the 250 SP lost. every few seconds.

[Akilez]

Thank you guys, glad i did not buy the boots haha xD

[Ashuckel]

the skills are not required to have its dmg affected by DEX to be physical, like DB, wich is ranged physical dmg and yes it procs the boots

[Akilez]

the skills are not required to have its dmg affected by DEX to be physical, like DB, wich is ranged physical dmg and yes it procs the boots

 

Thanks Ashu, yeah, i just had the idea that any ranged skills was affected by the DEX, but as MorseCoder said, that is only if the formula is boosted by DEX or when using Bow/Guns weapons.