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[liz4rd]

Hello I am with a doubt about the skill cart cannon

1) I use a Twin Edge of Naght Sieger (fire property) and use the iron cannon ball in monster Headless Mule which is fire, my attack is neutral or fire?

2) I'm buff with aspercio my attack is fire, neutral or holy?

3) the question of elemental damage the priority for the element is in the weapon, munition or incantation?

[KudanSeishirou]

from my understanding

1) your weapon + equipment atk will miss, but your status attack will do normal damage. then multiply again all by normal element modifier

2) your weapon + equipment atk will do holy property atk, but your status atk will do normal damage. then multiply again all by normal element modifier

3) it's like

ATK = (SATK*2 + (W+E)ATK * ELEMENT) * ELEMENT

CC = ATK * (0.0625 * INT + 3 )

[DrAzzy]

Cart cannon is really weird. 

 

Here's how it works:

 

IF you have an elemental cannonball, element is forced to that element, otherwise it stays as weapon ele, (or endowed ele, if aspersio/endow/convert/cwater/etc - endows take precedence over weapon ele, always). 

This ele modifier is applied to the weapon and equip attack, just like it always does.

Then, the modifier of the cannonball element is applied to the WHOLE DAMAGE. This is why holy/shadow/soul cannonballs are so horrifyingly effective against the appropriate elements, and why neutral cannonballs miss ghosts. 

Edited by DrAzzy, 27 January 2015 - 12:03 AM.

[liz4rd]

ie the priority is the cannon ball element after the weapon or endow?

[kasshin]

Elemental cannonballs takes priority, as in they overwrite weapon / endow.

But if you are using an iron / regular non-elemental cannonball, weapon takes priority, and any endows on top of that take priority over the weapon.

[liz4rd]

if I use the iron cannonball with a Twin Edge of Naght Sieger (red) and aspercio?

my element will be holy?

[DrAzzy]

Yes, and that element will be applied to your weapon and equip attack only.

 

When used with CC, it will miss or do reduced damage to ghosts, as described above. 

 

If you instead use a holy cannonball, the holy element will be applied to weap and equip attack - AND THEN the whole damage will be multiplied by the holy element modifier, resulting 25-100% more damage vs shadow and undead, and it will not miss ghosts. 

[Viri]

yes

[liz4rd]

only INT increases damage of the cart cannon or ATKM increases damage?

[DrAzzy]

It depends on your physical attack, level of cart cannon and cart remodel, and your int. 

 

I have no idea what ATKM is, that's not an abbreviation we use on RO. 

 

Damage formula is :

 

[{( Cart Remodeling Skill Level * 50 ) * ( INT / 40 )} + ( Cart Cannon Skill Level * 60 )] % ATK

 

 

[liz4rd]

physical attack is the attack of the weapon?

[kasshin]

No, it's all of weapon, status attack, equipment attack, mastery attack.

[mikayel]

Out of curiosity, is the Mechanic's Arm Cannon formula similar/identical to the Cart Cannon formula? I know it has the double elemental effect that holy ball + aspersio gives, but is the rest the same in terms of int/atk?

Edited by mikayel, 05 February 2015 - 02:30 PM.

[kasshin]

Nope, it's pretty different and has its own formula. INT is not involved at all too.

[liz4rd]

the enchantment Runaway increases the damage cart cannon?

[DrAzzy]

Yeah, when it procs it gives a monstrous boost to CC. 

[Havenn]

Look at my Beez video to see just how high it goes with RM! 

 

 

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[mikayel]

So, just wanna say, Havenn's one of my favorite dudes with his youtube videos. Your explanation of what you do and why is super awesome to anyone hoping to break through from early/low game to end/high game. Thanks mang o>