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#1 HayrohsLegacy

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Posted 02 February 2015 - 08:22 PM

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#2 JIGSAW

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Posted 02 February 2015 - 08:26 PM

Yep. DB is not dominanting in woe anymore. Plus, RK players can't even level well with proper gears.
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Posted 02 February 2015 - 08:27 PM

Ever since this delay was implemented, I haven't heard any complaints concerning some NDL shenanigans.

I think the change is doing what it's intended to do.
 


Edited by Demeris, 02 February 2015 - 08:37 PM.

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Posted 02 February 2015 - 08:30 PM

While you're(mystery gm) at it, also increase SC's ShadowSpell power :p_devil:


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Posted 02 February 2015 - 08:36 PM

yes pls


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Posted 02 February 2015 - 08:38 PM

No thanks


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Posted 02 February 2015 - 08:47 PM

No.

 

btw,put a fixed cast/delay on GOH. Thanks


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#8 Jaliboy

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Posted 02 February 2015 - 10:21 PM

no


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Posted 03 February 2015 - 12:17 AM

yes please, we cant compete with dem rangers /ene


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#10 Daniel1989

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Posted 03 February 2015 - 12:18 AM

No please x_x


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#11 JuggernautJones

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Posted 03 February 2015 - 12:28 AM

No.

 

btw,put a fixed cast/delay on GOH. Thanks

Hahahahahahahaha. Wait... Hahahahahahahahahahahaha. You're a funny character. I don't know if you're trying to be a troll, or just don't know how GoH works. It's no where near as OP as DB is. DB is a set 75 SP. GoH on the other hand, is a set 30% of total SP. You require 5 spheres to even cast it. Unlike DB, which can be spammed into oblivion, even with the Cast Delay nerf it received. The dragon breath skills even cast a debuff skill, burning and freezing. Not enough? They can put on mail breakers and sword breakers to break equipment on chars who are unlucky enough to not have FCP. Still not enough? They can use 2 different elements, water and fire, with the elemental portion being applied to the final damage step. Suras cannot spam GoH on a group, but any Rune Knight can hit everyone with 1 click. Your opinion of a good nerf is illogical. How about we give Arrow Storm a fixed cast time  of 5 seconds and a 30 second cooldown, and every time you use it, you lose 30% of your sp?


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Posted 03 February 2015 - 02:24 AM

Confirmed! the drama is coming again!


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Posted 03 February 2015 - 02:32 AM

-_- GoH, get rid of either snap or cursed circle. Sura shouldn't have both.


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Posted 03 February 2015 - 02:52 AM

No.

 

btw,put a fixed cast/delay on GOH. Thanks

 

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Posted 03 February 2015 - 03:34 AM

GoH on the other hand, is a set 30% of total SP....Your opinion of a good nerf is illogical. How about we give Arrow Storm a fixed cast time  of 5 seconds and a 30 second cooldown, and every time you use it, you lose 30% of your sp?

 

You sure must have SP problems everywhere you go in RO.  

 

Ygg berries will solve all your problems.


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#16 JuggernautJones

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Posted 03 February 2015 - 06:15 AM

You sure must have SP problems everywhere you go in RO.  

 

Ygg berries will solve all your problems. 

 

That is only 1 example as to why GoH would be a ridiculous nerf. It' not about having SP problems everywhere you go. It's about giving a nerf to a class that pretty much doesn't need one. Do you know when a GoH from a sura hurts? When they have really low HP or a Tao on them. Yes, paying over 200K per berry sounds like a great idea to me, especially since they have a cool down. How about giving a good reason as to why it should be nerfed, instead of making a smart ass comment about "Just using Yggberries."

It's okay for a Ranger to one shot a character with 140k HP and Full reductions during WoE. This isn't OP, right?

Dragon Breath Aftercast delay? Who needs it, they should be able to have the highest DPS in the game. This isn't OP, right?

GoH? A single target skill that takes 5 spheres to cast, and is heavily reliant on current HP count (i.e. Lower HP = More damage) which puts you in a situation to get one shot yourself. Totally too OP. Especially since Suras have a big ass nerf on their Gfist already. They definitely need this one too though, right? It's definitely the only skill that has any sort of issue right now, right?

 

 


Edited by JuggernautJones, 03 February 2015 - 06:16 AM.

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Posted 03 February 2015 - 06:38 AM

Yep. DB is not dominanting in woe anymore. Plus, RK players can't even level well with proper gears.

 

Sarcasm level over 9000!!


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Posted 03 February 2015 - 06:54 AM

yes the delay in db should be removed !


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Posted 03 February 2015 - 07:12 AM

Yep. DB is not dominanting in woe anymore. Plus, RK players can't even level well with proper gears.

 

Have you tried? If you're mobbing the delay is virtually non-existent even with 100% delay.


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Posted 03 February 2015 - 07:51 AM

Why would you want to remove something that encourage the worse form of cheating in the game. I know not everyone does it, but just a few bad apples can ruin WOE for a lot of us. Absolutely not a good idea.


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Posted 03 February 2015 - 08:01 AM

Just a piece of warning here, any post containing pointing fingers at a guild in sole reason to cause drama and derail the thread will be removed without notice.

 

If you wish to discuss, please keep the discussion about Dragon Breath after cast delay and why you think it should be removed or remain without bringing in guilds shenanigans.


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Posted 03 February 2015 - 08:06 AM

Why would you want to remove something that encourage the worse form of cheating in the game. I know not everyone does it, but just a few bad apples can ruin WOE for a lot of us. Absolutely not a good idea.

 

People still WoE?

 

 How about giving a good reason as to why it should be nerfed, instead of making a smart ass comment about "Just using Yggberries."

 

hey man I never once said GoH needed a nerf. I'm just trying to help since you went all whacko about SP problems with GoH and how nerfing GoH would be the end of the world for you.  Good job.

 

And your comment about rangers oneshotting 140k HP RK's is unfounded, unless the ranger had Thanatos/MVP cards + No Limit against a baddie RK that defaults random 2-H spears. Then, yes he would oneshot..

 

DB delay is only there to prevent said cheating.  Remove it and it will become a problem again, albeit not as big as originally.  DB doesn't really hurt no more, so people will resort to "spamming it faster" if possible.  So, no don't remove it.


Edited by cory, 03 February 2015 - 08:09 AM.

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Posted 03 February 2015 - 08:08 AM

Not sure if sura is not OP or some people just have no ideas how to play this class lol

About putting a fixed after cast delay, why cant iRO skill mechanisms be normal like kRO's. I dont play kRO but does DB in kRO have this fixed cast delay too? If there is not in kRO, this is pretty unfair to iRO RK players.


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Posted 03 February 2015 - 08:16 AM

kRO also doesn't have rampant cheating
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Posted 03 February 2015 - 08:45 AM

kRO also doesn't have rampant cheating

do you even kRO?


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