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[armourer84]

My Gen deals only 4k damage with CC skill and I need to improve the damage before go into Mid TI.

 

Gears right now

Head: Eden Hat

Garment: +9iHBP

Armor: Eden

Shoe: Eden

Weapon: +7 Giant Axe

Accessory: Phen Clip + Spiritual Ring

 

Skill right now

Cart Boost lv5

CC lv4

Cart Remod: lv3

 

Stat

Str:96

VIT:60

INT:45

DEX:65

Luk:12

 

I think I should have 20k damage CC before going Mid TI. Please suggest me how to do.

I have low in budget but I can obtain some with the possible amount in the future.

 

Thank you in advance.

 

PS. Everyone should have low in budget by the Ruffle

Edited by armourer84, 06 February 2015 - 09:06 PM.

[fuyukikun]

cart remod lv 5 to increase CC dmg by big amount

[Zelnite]

get a wild cat armor, get a +7-9 RTE with tripple archer skel, then get yourself a FAW with either Spell or EA enchants. I have EA in mine i do about 18kish at lvl 151. this is with no dmg boosting headgear and my shoes are variants. STR or dex boots with 120 dex and EA enchants would further increase dmg. and an EMH would as well. along with p-dagger and a dark ping carded mid gear. if youre wealthy, +3 INT armor and +3 INT on some RWC pendants.

 

EDIT: didnt see the low budget part. but i dont think a wild cat orleans gown or a +7 RTE is to expensive. probs x<100 imo forthe 2. temp boots with EA enchants should be to much. if youre high enuff can run OGH with a friend (first time gives 6 each) that can make the boots and give the first 2 enchants to the EA i believe.

Edited by Zelnite, 06 February 2015 - 10:35 PM.

[armourer84]

IIRC

FAW = Fallen Angel Wing

p-dagger = Pirate Dagger

dark ping = Dark Pinguicular

temp boot = Temporal boots

OGH = Old Glast Heim

 

What is RTE?

What is EA enchant?

What is EMH?

 

FAW and CoD is a must but need HUGE AMOUNT OF TIME to make those zeny. Without proper gears, I cannot join to hunt MVP and without MVP loot I cannot get enough zeny obtain proper gears to hunt MVP.

 

My budget is less than 100m now. Can someone donate me some zeny?

[Zelnite]

RTE = red twin edge. twin edge of naught seiger. the red over the blue for the extra 10 attack

EA = Expert archer enchant. Every 1 Expert archer is 2% to ranged dmg. ie: my FAW is EA 10 which is 20% to ranged dmg

EMH = Evil marching hat gives

 

a. Attack 2% to all monsters

b. if +7 or higher, critical 10%

c. if +9 or higher attack and ranged attack dmg increase by 5%

 

also gives STR +2

 

I recommned finding some friends/guild to help run those instances i mentioned in the former post. Those can help a lot. coags from OGH go about 1.5-2m and generally 2-4 a run. As well as splitting the OCA if they drop.

 

also mora quests, pretty simple for the daily ones. back to the first part where a guild can help run throuh hazy maze to find the missing person. 10 mora coins get a gear, most gears are about 4m each.

 

lastly, gramps daily turn ins. If you're VIP and can take both at the same time. its very nice because you can save time and gerally willwant to do it more. i say that because they give eden merit badges. 8 badges for a reset stone. about 4-5m there.

 

thats how i got started. also, if you are paying for VIP their new deal they ahve for 1500 wpe to get vip for a month and 1500 kp is a nice deal. essentially VIP for free. 100kp =~11/12 m

 

Hope this helps and hope you can understand it all. Good luck!

Edited by Zelnite, 07 February 2015 - 12:37 AM.

[devaiah]

And also reset your stats to get more int... You need 80 or more int to get good CC damage.

CC Damage formula is [{( Cart Remodeling Skill Level * 50 ) * ( INT / 40 )} + ( Cart Cannon Skill Level * 60 )] % ATK.

[Jupitel]

Basically, don't make a gene if you don't have the funds to support it because its heavily gear-dependent (and you'll get depressed when richer geneticists out dps you or when nobody invites you to parties because of your gear) and has expensive ammo for MVPing (acid bombs). An easier job would be something like Ranger or Gx or Archbishop or Maestro because these can easily solo TIs or find parties quickly which will help your income (reset stones) until you can purchase those expensive gene gears.

 

Edit: But if you do persist on this nonsensical crusade I would suggest you check the monster's element because certain elements (shadow, undead etc) are weak to the cannonballs you can purchase - e.g. using holy balls on Abysmal Knight can easily double your damage

 

PS: Crown of Deceit is quite cheap now (around 40m)

Edited by Jupitel, 07 February 2015 - 03:06 AM.

[kasshin]

Based on my rough calculation, your damage will nearly double once you get CC 5 and remodeling 5. You should have gotten those at 5 before getting cart boost at 5 (1 is pretty fast already), but those are just small details and you'll get there eventually anyway.

[Ryviux]

my suggestion would be to read both the Gene built and Weapon that that is pin to the top of this subforum. If you have any further questions after reading both thread then post them.

[Kadelia]

are you talking about 20k with elemental weakness or without...? my 153 gene only does ~20k without weakness, so I am not sure how you'd be doing that at 100

[Jupitel]

are you talking about 20k with elemental weakness or without...? my 153 gene only does ~20k without weakness, so I am not sure how you'd be doing that at 100

 

Pyroclastic?

[Kadelia]

not

[armourer84]

RTE = red twin edge. twin edge of naught seiger. the red over the blue for the extra 10 attack

EA = Expert archer enchant. Every 1 Expert archer is 2% to ranged dmg. ie: my FAW is EA 10 which is 20% to ranged dmg

EMH = Evil marching hat gives

 

a. Attack 2% to all monsters

b. if +7 or higher, critical 10%

c. if +9 or higher attack and ranged attack dmg increase by 5%

 

also gives STR +2

 

I recommned finding some friends/guild to help run those instances i mentioned in the former post. Those can help a lot. coags from OGH go about 1.5-2m and generally 2-4 a run. As well as splitting the OCA if they drop.

 

also mora quests, pretty simple for the daily ones. back to the first part where a guild can help run throuh hazy maze to find the missing person. 10 mora coins get a gear, most gears are about 4m each.

 

lastly, gramps daily turn ins. If you're VIP and can take both at the same time. its very nice because you can save time and gerally willwant to do it more. i say that because they give eden merit badges. 8 badges for a reset stone. about 4-5m there.

 

thats how i got started. also, if you are paying for VIP their new deal they ahve for 1500 wpe to get vip for a month and 1500 kp is a nice deal. essentially VIP for free. 100kp =~11/12 m

 

Hope this helps and hope you can understand it all. Good luck!

Very thanks. love you <3

 

And also reset your stats to get more int... You need 80 or more int to get good CC damage.

CC Damage formula is [{( Cart Remodeling Skill Level * 50 ) * ( INT / 40 )} + ( Cart Cannon Skill Level * 60 )] % ATK.

I'll try and wait next Mesmerizer event. (Already reset this event)

 

Basically, don't make a gene if you don't have the funds to support it because its heavily gear-dependent (and you'll get depressed when richer geneticists out dps you or when nobody invites you to parties because of your gear) and has expensive ammo for MVPing (acid bombs). An easier job would be something like Ranger or Gx or Archbishop or Maestro because these can easily solo TIs or find parties quickly which will help your income (reset stones) until you can purchase those expensive gene gears.

 

Edit: But if you do persist on this nonsensical crusade I would suggest you check the monster's element because certain elements (shadow, undead etc) are weak to the cannonballs you can purchase - e.g. using holy balls on Abysmal Knight can easily double your damage

 

PS: Crown of Deceit is quite cheap now (around 40m)

I've played other characters and found hopeless fact about huge amount of zeny needed for gears. All classes need zeny for gears. If you mention me about "low fund", I would like to say that, THIS IS A LOOP!: You need hunt MvP for zeny but you have no zeny for right gears to hunt them!!!! Why I choose Gen? the answer is this is the easiest class to hunt MVP. Even acceptable gears can possibly hunt MVP alone. This topic is posted because I want to know what is the right gears, stats and skills. Expensive potion? I am establishing the Brewer for this. The ingredients cost can save a lot of zeny for potion and ammo to hunt MvP. Gear for brewer? I've done pretty well in my opinion as a LOW FUND player. I have Lucky Fluke +3Luk amor, Zealotus card, Merica Hat that waiting for refine, Excalibur instead of unobtainable Mjornir, Tarnish lamp, etc.

 

btw, thanks for comment.

 

 

my suggestion would be to read both the Gene built and Weapon that that is pin to the top of this subforum. If you have any further questions after reading both thread then post them.

I've read DrAzzy's topic several times. It cannot help me the lv100 gene. It is for lv150.

The michaeleeli's topic is for MvPing, Even I want use this character to MvP but I need to focus on PvM to increase my effeicience and level right now.

wiki? out of date, cannot be trust that much.
 

are you talking about 20k with elemental weakness or without...? my 153 gene only does ~20k without weakness, so I am not sure how you'd be doing that at 100

I don't know that before, thanks for informing, I think the damage I need should be elemented.

 

Pyroclastic?

What is it? Please let me know.

[MorseCoder]

http://irowiki.org/wiki/Homunculus_S

 

Pyroclastic is Dieter's last skill.

 

If you wait for the next time Mesmerist appears, you're going to wait until ???. You can use Magical Stones to reset your stats. Those are relatively cheap, and if cost is an issue, you can earn your own Magical Stones. 8 Eden Merit Badges can be exchanged for 1 Magical Stone. At your level, I believe you need 4 stones to reset your stats.

 

Azzy's thread is still relevant to you, even if you're only level 100. His thread covers both stat builds and equipment. The stat builds assume level 150, but the equipment list is useful for any level, though keep in mind that it was put together before Temporal Boots were introduced with the Old Glast Heim update.

 

The weapon thread is still useful for PvM. Just replace Abysmal Knight cards with Archer Skeleton cards. Look at Cart Cannon -> High DPS.

Edited by MorseCoder, 12 February 2015 - 07:55 AM.

[Chrono13]

lol im a lvl122 gene and u damage m0re than me i only damage 16k on Od2 mobs in iron balls

[Jupitel]

I'm just saying that you're better off making other classes first because geneticists without good gear do pretty crappy damage (you'll hover at around 10k-12k for a long time) for their cast time and you'll find yourself out damaged by rangers and other jobs. Even high leveled genes with very good gear will have to take like 3-5 hits to kill a high TI mob whereas a ranger with decent gears can manage it in under 2 (or 1 if he uses elemental converters and no limits etc). 

 

Also, I wouldn't recommend going MVPing looking for the once in a lifetime stroke of luck of finding a card (because I think that's what you're aiming for) 

 

PS again: aim for 120 dex by the time you're gonna MVP (although you really should make an AB, GX or ranger first). The 0.5 second fixed cast reduction from wearing temporal dex boots with that is seriously gonna help your cast time when using acid bomb (the 120 dex also helps CC cast time too). Also, a high upgraded hurricane fury does more damage than a RTE but costs more but if you want more damage then that's what you want (although you cant use a shield)

Edited by Jupitel, 10 February 2015 - 01:27 AM.

[GringoStarr]

Here's a list of equipments you can budget consider. Some i used when i just started out,and its not too bad for the price you pay

Head,Top : Airship Captain's Hat

Head, Mid : Improved Opera Phantom Mask

Head, Low: Pirate dagger/Gangster scarf (both about the same price)

Body : Orleans's Gown [Porcellio] 

Weapon : Red Twin edge (3xArcher Skeleton)

Shield : Round Buckler (your choice of card)

Shoes, Accessory 1 : Shackles + Bloodied Shackle Ball

Accessory 2 : Your choice really,MOH maybe?

 

Note:

-HBP is only fully effective when you have base stats of 90 (you may want to reset for better stats distribution)

-Your current weapon (giant axe) can dish out pretty good damage due to its high ATK,but ultimately you would want to get a RTE for the 3xAS. Also,giant axe is 2 handed, thus lowering your survivability. (no shield)

- Highly suggest to replace your phen clip with orleans's (only 15% increase in cast time). Porcellio Card adds ATK as well, and frees up 1 accessory slot.

- Shackle + BSB combo adds good amount of ATK. If you want more survivability you may opt for a pair of variant boots.

Edited by GringoStarr, 10 February 2015 - 07:10 PM.

[armourer84]

About stats, if I can reset them, how should I distribute?

 

STR 90 or 99

INT 60 or 80 or 90 ?

VIT?

DEX?

 

Thank you in advance.

[Jupitel]

Str 90, int 90, dex 90, vit 90 is what you should aim for first to maximise the use of your HBP

[Rotatoe]

go for int 90 first for cart cannon damage

 

you don't really need more than 60~ str, i'd probably pick one other stat to get to 90 before that (either vit or dex)

Edited by Rotatoe, 10 February 2015 - 10:07 PM.

[Zelnite]

INT is primary factor of CC dmg. so at least 90 at 100. Dex at 90 for HBP bonus and can build from there imo for other stats with the HBP effects.

[armourer84]

OMG! I have started the question after put STR to 90. LOL....

Thanks Rotatoe and Zelnite for clarification. That's help me so much.

 

I will try

STR90

AGI 1

VIT 23

INT90

DEX 52

LUK 1

 

:3

 

and Thanks for GringoStarr for very interesting cheap gears.

 

Edited by armourer84, 11 February 2015 - 12:35 AM.

[Zelnite]

Hey thats what the forums are here for. goodluck gearing, and happy farming <3 Hope you get some desirable results

[KamiKali]

I do ~20k on a 150 gene with only eden gears and eden weapons, no pyro.

[Zelnite]

I do ~20k on a 150 gene with only eden gears and eden weapons, no pyro

Stats? also, kinda hard to believe =/

Edited by Zelnite, 12 February 2015 - 11:49 AM.