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#1 Zelnite

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 03:05 PM

I was looking at the bako armor and comparing it to the tidung. The tidung reducing dmg from all races,

So i i have a few questions.

 

1. Why is the bako armor so expensive if it needs to be +10 to reduce the dmg by the same amount as the tidung?

 

2. Does the tidung work like I think it does? ie ifrit is formless so its giving the 5 reduc from formless cause of all types but the bako armor is giving 5 reduc (at +10)?

 

and 3 will be to some players who have experimented with the tidung

 

3. Is there any cases where the tidung was useful? I would like to think that maybe i could survive an Ifrit EQ with enuff resist w/o having to buy a gtb. =/  


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Posted 16 February 2015 - 03:14 PM

Bako armor reduces damage from BOSS monsters by 1% per 2 refines. While tidung gives 5% reduction from all monsters. It is clear that they are different.

Plus, Bako armor gives +2 to all stats (+1 if bayani and can be slotted). Oh, i forgot, Tidung has a reaaaaaally low defense even tho it has 10 mdef.


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Posted 16 February 2015 - 03:40 PM

yea i see the difference. but i was told a bako armor was 300-400m like wtf. why so expensive if the tidung can do the same thing just doesnt give the stats? are the stats and def just worth 380m more? lol


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Posted 16 February 2015 - 03:41 PM

Does boss or racial resistance reduce earthquake? I thought it didn't.


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Posted 16 February 2015 - 03:57 PM

I'm not sure. But not dying to ifrit EQ would be lovely. and if i could get away with wearing a GR and lots of other fire resist/boss/race reduc while my sura tanks it. it would be awesome.


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Posted 16 February 2015 - 03:58 PM

How to Survive Ifrit's EQ: GTB. Or a lucky Maya.

 

Btw, How does one get the Bako Armor? :o 


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Posted 16 February 2015 - 04:55 PM

1. to get slotted bakonawa armor, u need to trade +9 unslotted one to malaya npc.

 

2. tidung ingame description is incorrect. it gives -5% reduction of all ELEMENT. tested on drake's waterball.

tidung have very low def. IIRC with other gear adding 160+ DEF, tidung needs about ~7 mobs attacking you for it to be better than bakonawa.

although its depends on your other gear really, when you stack the same type of reduction, the more effective it become.

 

3. nothing reduce EQ except ghostring, mental strength, energy coat, granitic armor, painkiller. and as mentioned above, completely nullified by GTB and reflected by reflect magic gears.


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Posted 16 February 2015 - 05:08 PM

According to translated patch notes for kRO, a fix has been implemented with Alice card because it wasn't reducing Earthquake damage dealt by boss property monsters. I think this was back in 1/14/2015? Guess that means Alice cards were intended to reduce EQ damage in the first place.


Edited by DarkGazer, 16 February 2015 - 05:10 PM.

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 06:40 PM

i have bako bayani, made by myself, i put angeling card on it.

okay, Bako has 55 def and 1% boss resist per 2 refines
tidung has 2 def and 5% resist from all monsters

i think the difference of 53 def means more than 5% monster reduction for most classes. why choose tidung when?

maybe it is good to resist magical attacks since it also gives 10 mdef at first place.

Edited by fuyukikun, 16 February 2015 - 06:47 PM.

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 07:16 PM

alright thanks fuyukikun. that is exaclty the answer i was looking for :D


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Posted 17 February 2015 - 12:48 PM

for pvm i never see def armor, thats why i prefer tidung. Just like @Chr0nicles said : tidung needs about ~7 mobs attacking you for it to be better than bakonawa. normally i tank more than 7 mob when solo anything XD


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