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[Shinyusuke]

Since runors says that the tw version of ro2 doesn't have all the features of our version of the game I would politely ask to any GM (Njoror?) to inform us all on what are these differences. When SEA merged the proces was plagued by a lot of misunderstanding, prejudice and unfair restrictions caused by ignorance of both playerbases in regard to the other. We have a month to prepare but we need informations and the tw players need them too so i hope these differences will be shared to them too.
A few questions to start:
-Is it real that Chaos and Fallen Fortress doesn't exist?
-If yes does the seedrunes drop?
-if drops where? With what droprate?
-what is their seedrune's value cap?
-Do they gave gold undefined cards?
-If yes where they drop?
-do they have card enhancment stones?where they drop?
-can they refine cards?
-is there something else that they don't have? Is there something that we don't have?
Since when they have FP update?

I hope for the sake of the fairplay these questions will find their answers.

[HuangKuangYu]

hello,I'm a tw server player.
-Is it real that Chaos and Fallen Fortress doesn't exist?
real

-If yes does the seedrunes drop?
only Red seed and Blue seed. Green seed also got ,but can't use
-if drops where? With what droprate?
Red and Blue one drop from Osiris bosses.
GreenSeed drop from guild dungeon,but can't use.
RS and Bs also drop from guild dungeon,but can't use.
drop rate is hard than Na,but easy to get 30%.
-what is their seedrune's value cap?
30%
-Do they gave gold undefined cards?
nope
-If yes where they drop?
-do they have card enhancment stones?where they drop?
have, drop from pf and mf mobs.(not guardian)

-can they refine cards?
Before ML cards can.
-is there something else that they don't have? Is there something that we don't have?
We don't have hhb234 , 31~50% rs bs and gs. 
Since when they have FP update?
Before your Na server update about 2weeks.

BTW sorry for poor English T_T
 

Edited by HuangKuangYu, 27 February 2015 - 12:53 AM.

[Saturn33]

Lol, they don't have Abaddon of Despair. They don't have Fast & Furious khara title. And I haven't seen people wearing LCM title yet. 

[HuangKuangYu]

cuz we have no LCM title mobs... XD
So hard to get cards.

[Shinyusuke]

wow this is even worst then you will come here and you will have an hard time to catch up since:

-we have a powerfull title called Fast and Furios obtainable in PVE arena

-we have the most powerfull title called Legendary Card Master that is obtainable collecting cards in the raid called Abandon of Despair

-Our red and blue seedrunes drop by normal mobs in Fallen Fortress

-Our greenseed are a sure drop in chaos raid dungeon but to go in chaos you need to complete all the raids (Bapho, CoA, AoD)

-We collected a lot of cards (rares too) using the undefined gold cards

-our ML cards can be refined

-we have runeslots also inside ml1 blue gears!

 

I really hope developers will find a nice way to fix these problems.

[Amilus]

"gold undefined card" do you mean Osiris type of card? or the unidentified card dropped from FF mobs?

Our progress of cards was stopped until CoA, then they come out with AoV/ML, ditched AoD and FF. there's a week long event in kafra selling random boxes for AoD cards. but thats it... all the AoD cards and ML mobs cards including gold cards from osiris dungeon bosses, are bugged without picture, therefore unable to enhance, or combine.

 

a lot of make-your-life-easier event doesn't happen in TW server, we dont have spoon-feeding 200/300% exp boost event, we dont have HHB event, albeit they accidently copied HHB 1 for few weeks, and then HHB V for 2days(the period between you guys getting FP and then got the drops FIXED, lol~)

 

costume and back accessories are lacked far behind, we are getting all the old costumes, until recently introducing those new blessing buff, but we still get it one week late.

 

for seed runes, ONLY blue/red seeds from Osiris dungeon bosses is usable, other drops from FP, greedy mines, are all unusable until now. and our seeds capped at 30%, although you can get 10~30% with equal chance.

 

We did have the privilege of experiencing FP first hand, for 2 weeks in advance comparing to iRO2, but if you think we are getting a big advantage here, i will say you are so wrong, only a few classes able to mass hunt their eq, noel and swordmen classes, priest and monk of course they have to resort to buy it using coins, thief class and hunter class is low in players especially high level enough to hunt it. weapon is the only mass production items due to grinding, but consider 8+1 channels available, and roughly 1 party each channel, and not to forget many started grinding at FP only after 4 or 5days as the secret spreaded out(is it i'm the culprit? = =)

 

in fact, TW server is in disadvantage in every aspect comparing to iRO2, except that 3rd party program(a.k.a BOT) is LEGAL over there, 70% of players over there using bot, thats the culture in taiwan, thats why i predict not many will survive over here, even chinese interface was introduced. last ly, about the population, if you think odin is dying? then i tell you, population in TW server is about 1/20 of Odin, or i may wrong, it's 1/30 of odin who actually play the game.

 

[Shinyusuke]

undefined gold cards are cards that when you click on them they transform in any random existing card pre ML and they drop from normal monsters in Fallen Fortress

[Telovi]

costume and back accessories are lacked far behind, we are getting all the old costumes 

 

Now I understand all those fuzz i kept hearing about how it's easier to get the costume you want with fusion in TW than NA or SEA before. Because they have thinner library database in their client.   

[Amilus]

undefined gold cards are cards that when you click on them they transform in any random existing card pre ML and they drop from normal monsters in Fallen Fortress

 

i'm also from SEA Vanir Server, we called it unidentified card, it can be obtained only from pandora box by using pandora key. there's another version which can be exchanged using 10pcs chance coupon at NPC munil, it gave blue cards only i guess.

[Erfans]

TW Server is being merged to Frejya server (Dead, Botting Server). 

[Amilus]

Now I understand all those fuzz i kept hearing about how it's easier to get the costume you want with fusion in TW than NA or SEA before. Because they have thinner library database in their client.   

 

if you think so... go try it now. hope you will get excited.

[Telovi]

if you think so... go try it now. hope you will get excited.

 

If I can find my lady luck before TW server closed, sure. 

[Erfans]

On TW server you can just buy the costume you want instead of just hoping on RNG.

[Telovi]

Not really looking for costumes/accessories. Just hoping by clearing the rumor up it will make some sense for our own server's fusion chances.  

[Shinyusuke]

Big question tw has pets and are them from ml maps too?

[krleinnn]

Chaos/Loki will be merged to Freyja. Based on the info you guys gave it seems Freyja is not that far ahead either.
Only a select few has a 3 star costume. 3 star head/back/mid/lower face costumes are super rare as well. I never saw a 3 star back/mid/lower face costumes in Freyja.
No one in freyja has an epic+ gold card because we only have 3 gold cards available since the server's launch.
GSR shield/shock capped at 5%.
There are some who has 30+ RSR/BSR but not really that many. Highest I have seen was 42%.
For GSR Power highest I have seen was 24% from 1 of the richest players in Freyja. Most settle for 10-16%.
GSR armor, most settle for 8~12%. Highest I have seen was 14%.

Freyja also has a few mermaid dna botters farmers.

TW most likely have more Eddga gears available. Only a select few in freyja grinded during the first 2~3 days.

I can see why they decided to merge TW to Freyja because they aren't that far from each other.

Edited by krleinnn, 27 February 2015 - 06:55 AM.

[HuangKuangYu]

ya tw has pets from ml maps

[Shigochan]

How much is the zenny inflation rate there in TW server? How much zenny normally does a char have? I think in Freyja, there are not really that much costumes yet since prcies for costumes in AH are really high. But the prices for the other items are not.

[faku1810]

It's kinda surprising that so much content was skipped in a different version of the game. I'm not much into MMOs so I kinda expected them to remain the same with some variations in rates rather than in content itself.

 

I wish luck to all the TW players that decide to transfer over to Freyja ^^

 

in fact, TW server is in disadvantage in every aspect comparing to iRO2, except that 3rd party program(a.k.a BOT) is LEGAL over there, 70% of players over there using bot, thats the culture in taiwan, thats why i predict not many will survive over here, even chinese interface was introduced. last ly, about the population, if you think odin is dying? then i tell you, population in TW server is about 1/20 of Odin, or i may wrong, it's 1/30 of odin who actually play the game.

This got me slightly curious, I don't usually take comments about how many botters there are in a certain server, but assuming things are really like that, what did people use bots for over there? farming dna, for example?

If that's the case I'd expect some pets to be high level since they were "allowed" to just bot to farm them, but as I said, i'm not drawing any conclusions, just asking about it.

[Amilus]

as i know, there's not a significant amount of zeny in circulation recently, i would say many remain in accounts own by players who had already quit the game. i would not included myself and some traders, as we know how to earn zeny systematically. so yes, most player have very low amount of zeny. it wont affect the economy after the merge. but its all my opinion, developer have all the stats to decide on it.

 

About the usage of bot, yes, farming dna is one of the usage, but in TW there's no dupe dna like in SEA, so only popular dot pets was farmed, such as mermaid, imp, sohee. the usage of bot is mostly in leveling, they will utilise their AFK/sleeping time to the fullest, they will post in N for ppls to join them in party, some for other botters, some for leecher, some will be only for guild. the other main usage is "flying", they can save the location, so later they only need to select the "point", and poof~ they will appears there, only usable when they are in the same map i think, as i'm not user of the bot, these are what i observed and known.

 

 

[Arbalist]

-we have a powerfull title called Fast and Furios obtainable in PVE arena

-we have the most powerfull title called Legendary Card Master that is obtainable collecting cards in the raid called Abandon of Despair

-We collected a lot of cards (rares too) using the undefined gold cards

In what realm of reality are these considered powerful anymore? Compared to easy-to-get titles like Goblin Leader titles, at best the LCM title would be a 10/10/10/5/15 stat difference - not enough to make a difference.

ML cards easily outclass pre-AOV cards obtained from Unidentified Cards so it's not a big deal. At worst, they have to spend a bit of time getting cards to fuse for Requiem [Rare+] and literally nothing stops them from farming these.
 

-Our red and blue seedrunes drop by normal mobs in Fallen Fortress

-Our greenseed are a sure drop in chaos raid dungeon but to go in chaos you need to complete all the raids (Bapho, CoA, AoD)

-our ML cards can be refined

-we have runeslots also inside ml1 blue gears!

Nothing actually stops them from doing the entrance quests and being able to farm these themselves. A day at most is all you'd need to catch up lol. Having equal chances to get 10%-30% seeds is enough to be competitive with our end game. where we have much lower chance to get those seeds (5% compared to our 0.04% to 1.05% for 30% to 20% seeds respectively). And for those who don't have them before merging, you'd just be on the same playing field as any other new player. There's nothing so atrociously out of reach that TW transfers would need to catch up on.

Stop inciting senseless fear into people, it's not as outrageous as it's made to look.

[Shinyusuke]

i sense confusion, more than anything i started this topic exactly to know what would happen

it's common sense to prepare for the worst and wish the best

[RyuMax02]

there are not much difference between Freyja and TW's server..we're both so-called low-pop server merge together to increase our communities..

I more interested in that abundant stock of eddga weapon if i understand it correctly..so that means that I only need to wait a month to get eddga weapon or just keep farming coins for around 2 weeks more to get my weapon..

 

They don't have to be scared of anything because unlike Odin, Freyja don't have much of imbalance stuff

[Shigochan]

It's nice they're doing the merge since there's really not much people to party with in freyja. The people there doesn't really use the find party option of the game. I want a 3 slot costume, hope they won't sell them too high.

[Njoror]

I am summoned. I think.

 

TWRO2 can merge into Freyja.

 

We didn't find any items they had to be of concern to restrict coming over here, so they'll get their stuff. They are a much younger version than we are, only a few months older than Freyja.

 

The only stuff that won't transfer is text-related stuff, like Guilds.

 

They will have their own client version so they don't have to learn English, but will be in the same server, Freyja.

 

Hope this explains some stuff. It won't be happening until April, at the earliest.