Okay, I've got a level 73 Alchemist with a level 39 Filir. I also have a level 75 Crusader. I'm at the point where I have decent enough gear to start upgrading my equipment, but so far, I've only gained enough rough elu/ori on my alchemist to upgrade my headgear to +3 and my weapon to +2. I spent a few hours in the Undersea Tunnel hunting the rough elu and ori from swordfish and such, but the ONLY thing I walked away with was normal drops and a swordfish card.
So here's my question: Is it really this hard to hunt the elu and ori to upgrade my gear to at least the safe limit? What are better alternatives to Undersea where I can get both to drop?