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#26 RomeroMelo

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 01:14 PM

My GX can reach 85th floor. I usually bring my AB together.

I am sure I can still reach there without AB.

But you cant pass through Randgris, can you?


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Posted 18 March 2015 - 01:34 PM

if yuga is doing the same dmg from dd crit thread he/she should kill it within seconds 2-3 secs but may die with it

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#28 Yugacky

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 01:56 PM

I will try Randgris someday.

Probably it's possible, just spamming Aloeveras untill Speed of Light proc and then, Dark Claw and Frenzy DD crit him.

But, it's 50% chance to win or less I guess because of the damn stupid dispell.


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#29 mikayel

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 02:08 PM

Is it possible to take the initial dispell by using a disposable mercenary? 


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Posted 18 March 2015 - 02:15 PM

if yuga is doing the same dmg from dd crit thread he/she should kill it within seconds 2-3 secs but may die with it

So he is DD crit? I though he was katar '-'

I just wanna see a katar crit doing it


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#31 Yugacky

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 02:21 PM

I use Katar for FBH. You need to be more flexible. I don't think Katar can get enough DPS for Ifrit or Randgris.


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Posted 18 March 2015 - 02:23 PM

Is it possible to take the initial dispell by using a disposable mercenary? 

 

Interesting. Does anybody try before?


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Posted 18 March 2015 - 02:25 PM

I use Katar for FBH. You need to be more flexible. I don't think Katar can get enough DPS for Ifrit or Randgris.

 

 

Katar > DD crit for FBH?


Edited by LegendaryTorgue, 18 March 2015 - 02:26 PM.

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#34 RomeroMelo

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 02:47 PM

i think i'll try to get a nice DD set, for switching, but, for the left hand, a ice pick (baphomet) would be nice? For it would help with Randrigs mob


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Posted 18 March 2015 - 02:59 PM

I can reach beelz, but fak that mob of his -", way too expensive for the low reward. I do prefer to bring along a sura to draw tew agro and make things a lot easier
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Posted 18 March 2015 - 03:01 PM

Also, dont even bother trying to do some dmg to randgriss mob, they have almost as much hp as her, u better off just kill her fast
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#37 mikayel

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 03:22 PM

Interesting. Does anybody try before?

 

I may be off base, but back when I was in a guild (years ago, when Renewal was first out) we used a homunculus to eat the initial dispel. Our guild mates all brought level 1 spearmen scrolls to soak up EQ damage and to use their recovery ability when fighting beeze for those that didn't have insomniac hats. 

 

I can't guarantee, but I suppose it can't hurt to try? I personally can't get up to Valk on my own, but a level 1 spearman scroll is pretttty cheap. 


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#38 RaohSung

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Posted 19 March 2015 - 05:51 AM

I think Valks Mob kills your mercenary, before she even notice there was something coming her way, lol ^^

And then, you eat the dispell :P


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#39 mikayel

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Posted 19 March 2015 - 11:57 AM

Yeah that's definitely a risk, but with careful corner positioning it's possible to get it there. I guess the homunc has more hp and hence better chance of surviving, but you get the idea. 

 

If you go in with a party, I suppose you could go get the VIP merc at that point but I donno if you want to go to that much hassle for it. 

 

Might be better to just bring an alt sura in MS to eat it, or something else like that. 


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Posted 23 March 2015 - 03:07 PM

What about if u spam ygg seeds or berries for a couple of seconds until you rebuff again? Would it be possible bit expensive to do it that way or not possible at all?

Maybe rebuff with perfect dodge equips?
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Posted 24 March 2015 - 12:51 AM

There's a video by Rosatuki where his dmg is pretty close to the dmg yuga has atm maybe use that as a reference?
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#42 EinZweiDrei

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Posted 24 March 2015 - 02:45 PM

katars are suppose to double your crit rate but how come it doesnt show up on status window?


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Posted 24 March 2015 - 03:15 PM

There is no reason other than it not showing. If you have a katar equipped, just take whatever your crit is and double it. 


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Posted 24 March 2015 - 06:48 PM

if you cant afford mvp cards for DD can DD crits still beat katars crits in terms of dps?


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#45 EinZweiDrei

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Posted 28 March 2015 - 11:24 PM

so which cards are better for chakram? aunoe or AK?
also is the chakram + sincuffs combo best crit mvp killing weapon we currently have?


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#46 OniichanN

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Posted 28 March 2015 - 11:56 PM

so which cards are better for chakram? aunoe or AK?
also is the chakram + sincuffs combo best crit mvp killing weapon we currently have?

 

AK if you're making a MVP killing chakram. The combo is the best for anything nondemihuman. For demihumans, a gx katar or glorious jama will be better.


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#47 EinZweiDrei

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Posted 30 March 2015 - 11:07 AM

around how much damage should a crit hit do per hit on mvp for a decent katar build with 193 aspd?


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Posted 30 March 2015 - 11:13 AM

Depends on you setup? idk the point of the question. ._.


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#49 EinZweiDrei

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Posted 30 March 2015 - 11:27 AM

Depends on you setup? idk the point of the question. ._.

 

just trying to reach the best dps possible without gods or mvp on a katar crit build on a minimal budget.


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Posted 30 March 2015 - 11:32 AM

That question is unanswerable without knowing what gears/buffs/items/upgrade level you're using. For example, bear's power procing alone is enough to account for a huge difference in crit damage (damage in general) and that of course depends on having said boots, etc.

 

Dude, you're all over the forum asking nearly every question possible; why not just test some of the stuff out using the calculator? 


Edited by mikayel, 30 March 2015 - 11:37 AM.

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