31 replies to this topic

[MoyuZ777]

Hey guys,

Been leveling my GX. Currently sitting at level 126.

My current stats are:

90 str
90 agi
85 vit
80 dex
Luk1
Int 1

My ultimate goal with this char is to make it a MVP/Instance Hybrid. Katars and daggers with DA.

To easily achieve 193 asdp the obvious answer would be 120 agi but my question is, with a budget of about 1b could I reach 193 for daggers and katars via equips without 120 agi?

Second question, did I go too heavy on dex? I want to be able to mob and farm high level mobs. If I am going for a hybrid, should my crits come from stats or equips? How much luk would be a good amount of any for 100% crit when Mvping AGI up MVPs?

Thanks in advance

Edited by MoyuZ777, 30 March 2015 - 08:47 AM.

[Necrohealiac]

I only have about 70 each dex and luk and I am doing just fine @ 160. obviously if you want to do DD crit you will need way more luk than if you just used katars. I know people who went 120 str/100 agi or vice versa and they have been happy with both builds.

[RomeroMelo]

no, you can't, to reach 193 asdp with 100 agi you'll need a lot o money, but you can get 120 for now, and when you get more founds you should go for 120 str, maybe 110 agi, will be better, in my onpinion. Its too hard to get 100% crit for the higher luk the mvp have, the less crit you'll have in it. About 60 luk is nice as you'll dd da others mvps, i dont know much of DD builds, but i think dex between 80~90 is a must have

Edited by RomeroMelo, 30 March 2015 - 09:40 AM.

[MorseCoder]

I would only get 120 AGI if you plan on using Temporal AGI Boots to get 193 ASPD.

[MoyuZ777]

Are you full on Katars?

Could you tell me if the dps is enough to drop MVP's fairly fast? Say less than 2 minutes for low-mid tier mvps?

Have u tried high tier mvps?

no, you can't, to reach 193 asdp with 100 agi you'll need a lot o money, but you can get 120 for now, and when you get more founds you should go for 120 str, maybe 110 agi, will be better, in my onpinion. Its too hard to get 100% crit for the higher luk the mvp have, the less crit you'll have in it. About 60 luk is nice as you'll dd da others mvps, i dont know much of DD builds, but i think dex between 80~90 is a must have

[EinZweiDrei]

Are you full on Katars?

Could you tell me if the dps is enough to drop MVP's fairly fast? Say less than 2 minutes for low-mid tier mvps?

Have u tried high tier mvps?
 

 

you can drop doppel ganger in under 15secs.

Edited by EinZweiDrei, 30 March 2015 - 02:14 PM.

[Yugacky]

If you wanna go for crit build with Katar/DD, you should get 120 Luk, and use Temporal Luk Boots.

I prefer getting 120 AGI as well. 

 

[Ward20th]

use this http://calc.irowiki.org/

if you use awakening potion +2 aspd, it will be 184.55

 

Edited by Ward20th, 30 March 2015 - 05:25 PM.

[RomeroMelo]

Are you full on Katars?

Could you tell me if the dps is enough to drop MVP's fairly fast? Say less than 2 minutes for low-mid tier mvps?

Have u tried high tier mvps?
 

wow 2 mins?! I kill osiris before Dark Claw ends, so yeah, i like Katars, you get more versatile. With katar you'll grind well, woe well, kill mvps well, pvp... Whatever you want

 

What kind of high tier mvps you have in mind? I can reach 80th floor on ET... But i'm still at lvl 158

Edited by RomeroMelo, 30 March 2015 - 06:57 PM.

[EinZweiDrei]

you still need a budget of over 2bil to get 193 aspd with around 140crit. and i think thats minimum budget.

Edited by EinZweiDrei, 30 March 2015 - 07:00 PM.

[MoyuZ777]

I can probably push it to 2b if needed.

[OniichanN]

use this http://calc.irowiki.org/

if you use awakening potion +2 aspd, it will be 184.55

<removed pic>

 

Has this been updated? Last time I used it, it was wrong by 2 ASPD (maybe more since status screen doesn't show decimals).

[EinZweiDrei]

Has this been updated? Last time I used it, it was wrong by 2 ASPD (maybe more since status screen doesn't show decimals).

 

did it show 2 aspd more or 2 aspd less than ur actual character?

[OniichanN]

Less. It's really bad with high ASPD calculations. Or was, if it's updated now. I use this to calculate ASPD, the most accurate calc I found so far.

[EinZweiDrei]

Less. It's really bad with high ASPD calculations. Or was, if it's updated now. I use this to calculate ASPD, the most accurate calc I found so far.

 

can you calculate your stats on that irowiki calculator and post me a link of your calculations to see how off it is.
aspd bonuses from gears that arent added yet can be added from enchants section. for an example +11 IRE i would put 2ASPD on enchants.

[RomeroMelo]

this calc dont work well, and because of that i have to expend so much money with reset stones when i want to do some tests :/

[EinZweiDrei]

Less. It's really bad with high ASPD calculations. Or was, if it's updated now. I use this to calculate ASPD, the most accurate calc I found so far.

 

i tried them both. maybe i did something wrong but got similiar results or the irowiki one has been updated.

[MoyuZ777]

I don't rely on any calculators for asdp for these same reason.

All I want to know is, if it is difficult to reach 193 with daggers and katars without 120 agi or if I need that much Agi to reach it with not so expensive gear. About 1b budget.

[EinZweiDrei]

no1 is willing to test both calculators? i tested both and found fairly identical results. maybe i did something wrong.
so if sum1 can test both  to clear some doubts it'll be really helpful.

[OniichanN]

i tried them both. maybe i did something wrong but got similiar results or the irowiki one has been updated.

 

 

no1 is willing to test both calculators? i tested both and found fairly identical results. maybe i did something wrong.
so if sum1 can test both  to clear some doubts it'll be really helpful.

 

Sorry, was too tired yesterday after work. And I am shocked. I get the same results when using either one, which matches my ingame ASPD. Gonna try playing around with my ranger's stats to see if it matches also (tho after work today so in like 12 hours lel).

[EinZweiDrei]

its nice that they actually updated it. they should really add "crit damage%" and "hit" to enchants if they find it too much of a hassle to update the gears.
and thanks for testing it let me know the results on your ranger later. thanks again.

Edited by EinZweiDrei, 31 March 2015 - 07:52 PM.

[idonothaveanname]

In my opinion, getting 120 on a stat is only good for bonuses. For example nab cloth and temporal str boots.

I have somewhat of a hybrid. 105 str 100 agi 100 vit 50 dex 40 int 100 luck

If you're having trouble getting 193 aspd, you may need to give up a little str vit and luck for the temporal agi boots.

Unless you're 150 or higher, I think 120, even 110 on a stat is overkill.

[EinZweiDrei]

In my opinion, getting 120 on a stat is only good for bonuses. For example nab cloth and temporal str boots.

I have somewhat of a hybrid. 105 str 100 agi 100 vit 50 dex 40 int 100 luck

If you're having trouble getting 193 aspd, you may need to give up a little str vit and luck for the temporal agi boots.

Unless you're 150 or higher, I think 120, even 110 on a stat is overkill.

 

what gears and buffs did you use to get 193 aspd with those stats?

[idonothaveanname]

I use a GJ which procs 193 quite often (aspd is 186 buffed)

I also use a +7 drooping alicel when fighting Demi humans. Some things that may help with aspd are Bako tattoos and a +9 FAW with AD enchants with a cerene card. These will be end game expensive gears though.

I'm stacking FS for better RC damage. So if I'm only at 193 aspd 75% of the time, I can still kill things quite fast, with EDP and proper converters of course.

[EinZweiDrei]

I use a GJ which procs 193 quite often (aspd is 186 buffed)

I also use a +7 drooping alicel when fighting Demi humans. Some things that may help with aspd are Bako tattoos and a +9 FAW with AD enchants with a cerene card. These will be end game expensive gears though.

I'm stacking FS for better RC damage. So if I'm only at 193 aspd 75% of the time, I can still kill things quite fast, with EDP and proper converters of course.

 

which mvps can you solo?

Edited by EinZweiDrei, 03 April 2015 - 02:44 PM.