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[AMNBrasil]

What skills and stats should I prioritize?

Edited by AMNBrasil, 11 April 2015 - 12:52 PM.

[ka10]

can't be excellent in both MvP and PvP - though a general WoE/PvP "end build" can still MvP decently (low-mid tier bosses) with appropriate gears;

as for MvPing mid-high/high tier bosses as a shura, expectation is not too good without top-tier ATK/mSP/%damage gears/cards, pure-MvPing stats, and buffs, consumables, etc (other support setup like incubus pet, lex, GK, BC)

 

anyways; if you haven't reached 175/60 yet, should just focus on PvM/leveling build (flash combo, STR/ATK, VIT/mHP, and %damage gears);

max tiger cannon first so you have something to level with, then max flash combo (so no more HP/SP drain);

then work on maxing rising dragon (more mHP/mSP and more SP regain per power absorb)

stats that really matter are STR and VIT;

if your setup yields very high mHP (80,000-100,000+ HP depending on actual setup) and %damage (100-150%), then ATK gears are good options; otherwise, work on VIT/mHP first;

also, have around 90-100 base DEX for HIT (since the main damage portion of TC can miss)

 

once you hit max levels, you can then decide to redistribute stats/skills to suit what you think you would be mainly doing;

 

Edited by ka10, 11 April 2015 - 02:20 PM.

[AMNBrasil]

can't be excellent in both MvP and PvP - though a general WoE/PvP "end build" can still MvP decently (low-mid tier bosses) with appropriate gears;

as for MvPing mid-high/high tier bosses as a shura, expectation is not too good without top-tier ATK/mSP/%damage gears/cards, pure-MvPing stats, and buffs, consumables, etc (other support setup like incubus pet, lex, GK, BC)

 

anyways; if you haven't reached 175/60 yet, should just focus on PvM/leveling build (flash combo, STR/ATK, VIT/mHP, and %damage gears);

max tiger cannon first so you have something to level with, then max flash combo (so no more HP/SP drain);

then work on maxing rising dragon (more mHP/mSP and more SP regain per power absorb)

stats that really matter are STR and VIT;

if your setup yields very high mHP (80,000-100,000+ HP depending on actual setup) and %damage (100-150%), then ATK gears are good options; otherwise, work on VIT/mHP first;

also, have around 90-100 base DEX for HIT (since the main damage portion of TC can miss)

 

once you hit max levels, you can then decide to redistribute stats/skills to suit what you think you would be mainly doing;

Thanks for your help! I chose to be PVP only, what skills and stats should I prioritize?

[ka10]

max GoH, CC, and RD for sure;

windmill, PA, and GT-cure-1;

TC/FC is only really viable if you could 1-shot; the SP drain from TC can be useful at times; beware of not being able to move/pot/skill for most of FC's animation;

 

statwise:  STR/VIT > DEX/AGI/INT/LUK

high AGI helps with animation delay (fast snaps) and masq resistance;

high INT only if you plan to use GFist; though med-high is good for some status resistances along with medium LUK (also to squeeze in extra ATK among other things);

Edited by ka10, 11 April 2015 - 04:54 PM.

[AMNBrasil]

max GoH, CC, and RD for sure;

windmill, PA, and GT-cure-1;

TC/FC is only really viable if you could 1-shot; the SP drain from TC can be useful at times; beware of not being able to move/pot/skill for most of FC's animation;

 

statwise:  STR/VIT > DEX/AGI/INT/LUK

high AGI helps with animation delay (fast snaps) and masq resistance;

high INT only if you plan to use GFist; though med-high is good for some status resistances along with medium LUK (also to squeeze in extra ATK among other things);

Thank you! What about gear? What I use?

[ka10]

for PvM/leveling:  VIT/mHP, STR/ATK, and %damage(physical) gears/cards; racial reduc shields; elemental armors if applicable;

 

for WoE/PvP:  WoE robe/muffler/shoes sets; GR, angeling, marc, raydric, noxious, DR, elemental-reduc-garment cards; reducs and %damage vs demi-human gears; thara valk/immune shield;

also, utility gears like maya purple and stat-immune mid gears; mHP/ATK/reduc lower gears;

*can also use PvM/leveling gears in WoE/PvP for full offensive mode, but risky due to low reducs;

 

this is a rather general list; search function (within WP forums or through general search engines) should provide more details

Edited by ka10, 12 April 2015 - 03:03 PM.

[AMNBrasil]

for PvM/leveling:  VIT/mHP, STR/ATK, and %damage(physical) gears/cards; racial reduc shields; elemental armors if applicable;

 

for WoE/PvP:  WoE robe/muffler/shoes sets; GR, angeling, marc, raydric, noxious, DR, elemental-reduc-garment cards; reducs and %damage vs demi-human gears; thara valk/immune shield;

also, utility gears like maya purple and stat-immune mid gears; mHP/ATK/reduc lower gears;

*can also use PvM/leveling gears in WoE/PvP for full offensive mode, but risky due to low reducs;

 

this is a rather general list; search function (within WP forums or through general search engines) should provide more details

Thank you again! Could rate this build?

 

Stats:

 

Str 120

Agi 1

Vit 103

Int 120

Dex 62

Luk 52

 

Skills:

 

http://irowiki.org/~...sNeAGAkdabdnIn1 (Could you help me with the skills of the second class? I'm complete newbie with this class)

[ka10]

above edited +1st, 2nd class skills - assuming this is your PvP/end-build (since PvP build is not good for leveling, especially solo);

also note: you still have 10 more points for 3rd job skills when you max out to job 60;

 

would say AGI 1 is rather terrible for a PvP build; would suggest about 70-90 base AGI if you want fast snaps and skill chaining (pneuma/hide/etc); action/reaction time is important to get kills (or not get killed);

AGI is also good for masquerade resistance;

INT looks too high for a PvP build (almost looks like an GFist/MvP build) - though would say this could be fine if you plan to rely heavily on GFist;

for DEX 90-100 base would be ideal; lower than this would make the base damage (%ATK) portion of your GoHs miss more often (this could be a significant loss if you have a good weapon);

when redistributing stats (like maybe lowering INT and raising DEX/AGI )and you find that you still need some points, you can take some off from LUK too

 

 

[AMNBrasil]

above edited +1st, 2nd class skills - assuming this is your PvP/end-build (since PvP build is not good for leveling, especially solo);

also note: you still have 10 more points for 3rd job skills when you max out to job 60;

 

would say AGI 1 is rather terrible for a PvP build; would suggest about 70-90 base AGI if you want fast snaps and skill chaining (pneuma/hide/etc); action/reaction time is important to get kills (or not get killed);

AGI is also good for masquerade resistance;

INT looks too high for a PvP build (almost looks like an GFist/MvP build) - though would say this could be fine if you plan to rely heavily on GFist;

for DEX 90-100 base would be ideal; lower than this would make the base damage (%ATK) portion of your GoHs miss more often (this could be a significant loss if you have a good weapon);

when redistributing stats (like maybe lowering INT and raising DEX/AGI )and you find that you still need some points, you can take some off from LUK too

Thank you very much, you are the BEST! Rate my new stats.

 

Stats:

 

Str 110

Agi 79

Vit 95

Int 110

Dex 92

Luk 40

 

One more thing, where I put the skills left over in the third class?

[ka10]

looks more balanced now;

personally, i would switch VIT and INT, or at least balance them if you're really worried about GFist damage (maybe i'm just a fan of high mHP), but it's still up to you;

 

the remaining skill points would vary:

FC-5 + TC-7 (w/ GoH-10)

FC-5 + TC-10 (w/ GoH-7)

TC-10 + CE-4; note you only need lvl 4 crescent elbow for 100% activation chance at job 60

CE-4 + LW-3; CE and lightning walk are rather rare and gimmicky skills - but if you're looking to have fun (and just a slight edge in an otherwise deadlock match) in PvP, could be worth a try;

btw, LW activation chances are 75,80,85,90,95% respectively for lvls 1-5 at job 60;

also possible to put points on GT-change (for the extra ATK for MvPing with GFist) but you could just make another shura as a GT slave (for GT-revit especially);

anyways, once you do a lot of PvP (or WoE) you'll get a better idea of which skills would suit your own play style;

 

[AMNBrasil]

looks more balanced now;

personally, i would switch VIT and INT, or at least balance them if you're really worried about GFist damage (maybe i'm just a fan of high mHP), but it's still up to you;

 

the remaining skill points would vary:

FC-5 + TC-7 (w/ GoH-10)

FC-5 + TC-10 (w/ GoH-7)

TC-10 + CE-4; note you only need lvl 4 crescent elbow for 100% activation chance at job 60

CE-4 + LW-3; CE and lightning walk are rather rare and gimmicky skills - but if you're looking to have fun (and just a slight edge in an otherwise deadlock match) in PvP, could be worth a try;

btw, LW activation chances are 75,80,85,90,95% respectively for lvls 1-5 at job 60;

also possible to put points on GT-change (for the extra ATK for MvPing with GFist) but you could just make another shura as a GT slave (for GT-revit especially);

anyways, once you do a lot of PvP (or WoE) you'll get a better idea of which skills would suit your own play style;

Thanks a lot! Rate this build.

 

Stats:

 

Str 110

Agi 79

Vit 110

Int 95

Dex 92

Luk 40

 

Skills:

 

http://irowiki.org/~...zneAGAkdabeAIn1

[ka10]

looks fine to me at least;