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#1 damond16

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Posted 14 April 2015 - 06:14 PM

hi, anyone else ecpiriencing very low drop rates on dna and easter eggs?


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Posted 14 April 2015 - 06:39 PM

Item Drop Rate Penalty applied.

Item Drop Rate Penalty

Level Diff.                           Before                                 New

+ 3 or Above                        100%                                  100%

+ 2                                    100%                                  100%

+ 1                                    100%                                  100%

0                                       100%                                  100%

- 1                                     100%                                  100%

- 2                                     100%                                  100%

- 3                                     100%                                  90%

- 4                                     100%                                  80%

- 5                                     100%                                  70%

- 6                                     100%                                  60%

- 7                                     100%                                  50%

- 8                                     100%                                  40%

- 9                                     100%                                  30%

- 10 or below                       100%                                  20%


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#3 damond16

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Posted 14 April 2015 - 06:58 PM

does it make any diffrence if am in party? and by using thieff pot, elite membership that gives 30% drop rates, and 15% from the statue in prontera what would be my drop rate? i just need an example please.


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Posted 14 April 2015 - 07:31 PM

normal rate without buffs without lvl diff: 1.0 or 100%

normal rae without buffs with lvl diff: current drop to your lvl diff

normal rate with buffs wihout lvl diff:

0.3 vip + 0.3 midgard grace + 0.15 hunter buff + 0.5 thief potion + 0.1 new year costume + 1

 

normal rate with buffs with lvl diff:

0.3 vip + 0.3 midgard grace + 0.15 hunter buff + 0.5 thief potion + 0.1 new year costume + your current drop to your lvl diff

example to lvl diff -10 with all named buffs -> 0.3+0.3+0.15+0.5+0.1+0.2=1.45 or 155% (vs 235% without lvl diff).

 

Something like this :P and no, isnt much diff between solo or party (i suppose that its the same, but im not 100% secureof that).


Edited by kamuxo, 14 April 2015 - 07:33 PM.

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Posted 14 April 2015 - 08:12 PM

ok thanks for the info


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Posted 14 April 2015 - 11:09 PM

In party there is a big difference IF the player looting is the one near the mobs level. Example:
ML35 + ML1 in fallen fortress ml35 kill and the ml1 loot = seed runes, undefined cards eventually HHB and more with the ml1 droprate but the ml35 velocity or in other words profit.
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Posted 14 April 2015 - 11:53 PM

does dna have diffrent drop rate, and what about the easter eggs, because after farming 3 hrs only found 3 pieces

 


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Posted 15 April 2015 - 02:49 AM

does dna have diffrent drop rate, and what about the easter eggs, because after farming 3 hrs only found 3 pieces

 

Which monster were you farming? And how many did you kill in these 3 hours?
 


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Posted 15 April 2015 - 04:58 AM

In party there is a big difference IF the player looting is the one near the mobs level. Example:
ML35 + ML1 in fallen fortress ml35 kill and the ml1 loot = seed runes, undefined cards eventually HHB and more with the ml1 droprate but the ml35 velocity or in other words profit.

 

This is only partly correct, which player is picking up the items does not matter as long as they are in range of the kills to generate the drops. The ML1 character can simply sit afk while the ML35 kills and loots.


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Posted 15 April 2015 - 05:07 AM

I think DNA isn't affected by the +5/-5 thing, you're still able to farm a lot of mermaid/vador/willow DNA etc at ML35 from my experience. However pretty much everything else is affected I think; probably one of the reasons that osiris cards rose in price. It's a pretty dumb change tbh, since seeds are more relevant in MLs than they are at 50-ML5.

 

There IS an issue with coins from FP mobs though, they have significantly got lowered since last patch for no reason at all. It would be great if this was looked into, FP mob farming for coins isn't relevant anymore.


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Posted 15 April 2015 - 07:13 AM

Which monster were you farming? And how many did you kill in these 3 hours?
 

 

i was farming fabre


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Posted 24 April 2015 - 07:46 PM

i was farming fabre

 

Dude i think the fabre dna drop rate is damn low , i farm fabre too for 2hours and got 7 dna only while when i farm mermaid for 2 hours i got 40+


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Posted 26 April 2015 - 11:06 AM

I made another short test.

 

I took my ML character using just the Pron-buff and hunted fabres for a while:

 

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Forgive me the primitive editing of the pictures, but it took me <7 minutes to get 7 Fabre DNAs (see server time or attendance countdown). To prove that I didn't bought them, the picture also includes what I found in addition.(Excluding the VIPs, Binding Proteins and FP Coin of course).

 

So 7min is something completely different than the 3hours you are talking about. I wasn't even optimized for DNA looting (f.e. switching to high movement speeds). Maybe I can start a new character and play it to level 7, but I doubt that the result will be 3hours.


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Posted 15 May 2015 - 10:25 AM

Im  ml35 farming the bosses in sandarman using elite memebership 30%, thief potion 50%,  midgards grace 30%, prontera buff 15%, beautifull flower 10%, and after 1 hour i did not get a piece of dna from the bosses.

 

Can you correct me if im wrong, by using all those buffs, does that mean i have 47% ?


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Posted 15 May 2015 - 10:44 PM

Boss dna is really rare so lets say about 10% with the drop nerf to 20% it becomes 2% so the 47% you calculated doesn't count about the original dna drop rate the correct result is 4.7% good luck farming bosses dna

Edited by Shinyusuke, 15 May 2015 - 10:47 PM.

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Posted 27 May 2015 - 08:13 PM

anyone knows whats is boss dna drop rate


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Posted 27 May 2015 - 11:04 PM

i m not believing those Thief potions. i m not feel i have more %50 drop rate. not only now but before drop rate nerf also (i m playing 1,5 years). Or maybe my SM have have problem xd
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Posted 27 May 2015 - 11:26 PM

one simple fact about the drop is that the rate is not cumulative, every kill is mutually exclusive, 10% meaning every single kill have a 1/10 chance of dropping, not killing 10times you will sure have 1 dropping, you can still killing 100times and get nothing, its possible.


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Posted 27 May 2015 - 11:58 PM

When it comes to instance farming you need to factor in the travel times in your calculation. I'm pretty sure both field and instance drop rates for DNA are the same.
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Posted 28 May 2015 - 05:59 AM

can you tell me what would be drop rate for bosses if am  using, thief pot, vip, midgards grace, beutifull flowers, prontera buff, please


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Posted 29 May 2015 - 02:53 AM

DNA Fragment itself already not an easy drop, and still, it is a 2 stage RNG to obtain a pet. And the best part is, the rates to obtain the 4 DNA Fragment pieces A, T, C, G are not the same.
 
Eremes DNA Fragment
Eremes DNA Fragment A - 29 %
Eremes DNA Fragment T - 29 %
Eremes DNA Fragment C - 21 %
Eremes DNA Fragment G - 21 %

 

 

This is what happen when your bad luck is strong enough to enable you to meet something supernatural.

 

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Posted 29 May 2015 - 06:07 AM

I saw a much horrible RNG screenshot before. It was Eremes too but missing letter A out of nearly 80 fragments.
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