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#1 vogiro

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 02:49 AM

 Hey guys, I am new and with help of some topics I made this. What do you think?

 

1 str

120 agi

56 vit

29 int

90 dex

56 vit

102 luk

 

Elven bow + Archer skel

Sniper goggle

Well-c pencil

WW set + Ancient mimic + Kavach Icarus + Matyr

 

My priority is MVP

 

With common buffs and just 20+agi food i can reach 193 aspd.


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Posted 20 April 2015 - 11:16 AM

 Hey guys, I am new and with help of some topics I made this. What do you think?

 

1 str

120 agi

56 vit

29 int

90 dex

56 vit

102 luk

 

Elven bow + Archer skel

Sniper goggle

Well-c pencil

WW set + Ancient mimic + Kavach Icarus + Matyr

 

My priority is MVP

 

With common buffs and just 20+agi food i can reach 193 aspd.

 

2x 56 Vit? What does it mean +_+

 

But with that out of the way, the stats seem pretty good, but, I would break that white wing set as soon as possible. You don't want Double Strafe auto-casting while you try hit lock MVPs.

 

If you can afford it, the next best piece of gear you could go for is either garment or boots (garment is probably the better choice). Fallen Angel Wings are pretty amazing, you can get some well enchanted ones with ASPD (if it drops due to breaking the WW set) or CRIT (as you should always aim for approx 110 CRIT).
 


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Posted 20 April 2015 - 10:21 PM

I would break that white wing set as soon as possible. You don't want Double Strafe auto-casting while you try hit lock MVPs.

 

If you can afford it, the next best piece of gear you could go for is either garment or boots (garment is probably the better choice). Fallen Angel Wings are pretty amazing, you can get some well enchanted ones with ASPD (if it drops due to breaking the WW set) or CRIT (as you should always aim for approx 110 CRIT).
 

 

Why you don’t want DS auto casting?

 

As AS/Warg Ranger, get 193 ASPD with WWSet is more convenience. No need switching gear.

 

Though it is much easier to get max ASPD with ASPD Faw and Temp Agi AD4 (Still using Agi food mean cost more.)

 

With LD or Hawkeye, u will get more damage then WWSet for normal attack. And LD is better since ur warg will procs all the time, easy to get high crit, and no SP drain when activate.


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Posted 21 April 2015 - 03:03 AM

WW set + Ancient mimic + Kavach Icarus + Matyr

 

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Posted 21 April 2015 - 04:42 AM

btw, about that auto cast DS, try to think about it as this way:
with 193 aspd, you basically deal 7 hit per second. But when DS proc, you will spend something like 1s only to deal 2 hit (from the DS). So instead of 7 hit per second, it is 2 hit per second during the DS proc. That will interrupt you if you try to hit lock a mvp, since during that time that you are suppose to deal 5 more atk, that mvp can be walking closer to you to smack you right in the face.

not really sure about the real reason, but i think it is something along those line  :s

Edit: and i forgot to mention that skill can't trigger skill. So every time your DS proc is every time your warg cant proc. So that basically lower your dps by a lot.


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Posted 21 April 2015 - 11:45 AM

Why you don’t want DS auto casting?

 

As AS/Warg Ranger, get 193 ASPD with WWSet is more convenience. No need switching gear.

 

Though it is much easier to get max ASPD with ASPD Faw and Temp Agi AD4 (Still using Agi food mean cost more.)

 

With LD or Hawkeye, u will get more damage then WWSet for normal attack. And LD is better since ur warg will procs all the time, easy to get high crit, and no SP drain when activate.

 

 

btw, about that auto cast DS, try to think about it as this way:
with 193 aspd, you basically deal 7 hit per second. But when DS proc, you will spend something like 1s only to deal 2 hit (from the DS). So instead of 7 hit per second, it is 2 hit per second during the DS proc. That will interrupt you if you try to hit lock a mvp, since during that time that you are suppose to deal 5 more atk, that mvp can be walking closer to you to smack you right in the face.

not really sure about the real reason, but i think it is something along those line  :s

Edit: and i forgot to mention that skill can't trigger skill. So every time your DS proc is every time your warg cant proc. So that basically lower your dps by a lot.

 

Basically what the above post says, it can break hitlock. Also, Double Strafe cannot crit, so there is a chance it can miss putting you at further risk.


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Posted 21 April 2015 - 05:48 PM

Thank you for the information :p_smile:


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Posted 23 April 2015 - 12:09 AM

Lol

ahahaha later i realized that there wasnt slot for WW manteau.


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Posted 23 April 2015 - 12:12 AM

Why you don’t want DS auto casting?

 

As AS/Warg Ranger, get 193 ASPD with WWSet is more convenience. No need switching gear.

 

Though it is much easier to get max ASPD with ASPD Faw and Temp Agi AD4 (Still using Agi food mean cost more.)

 

With LD or Hawkeye, u will get more damage then WWSet for normal attack. And LD is better since ur warg will procs all the time, easy to get high crit, and no SP drain when activate.

 

 

I am noob (used to play a long time ago in the old times). I dont know what ASPD Faw, Agi AD4, LD and Hawkeye are. Can u explain please?


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Posted 23 April 2015 - 04:36 AM

apsd Faw= +9Fallen angel wing enchanted with aspd+1, atk delay3, atk delay3. (aspd stand for attack speed, just in case)
Temp Agi AD4 = Temporal Agi Boots enchanted with Attack Delay 4
LD= Lucky Day.One of special enchant on 3rd slot of temporal boots. which add +200luk for 5s. Basically mad warg proc.
Hawkeye= another special enchant on 3rd slot of temporal boots. add +200 dex.

more info : http://irowiki.org/w...eim.29_Enchants  


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Posted 23 April 2015 - 05:28 AM

apsd Faw= +9Fallen angel wing enchanted with aspd+1, atk delay3, atk delay3. (aspd stand for attack speed, just in case)
Temp Agi AD4 = Temporal Agi Boots enchanted with Attack Delay 4
LD= Lucky Day.One of special enchant on 3rd slot of temporal boots. which add +200luk for 5s. Basically mad warg proc.
Hawkeye= another special enchant on 3rd slot of temporal boots. add +200 dex.

more info : http://irowiki.org/w...eim.29_Enchants

Thank you.

 

So, do I still need 120 agi even with all this ASPD buffs?

Shouldn't I put more dex or vit?


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Posted 23 April 2015 - 07:34 AM

Thank you.

 

So, do I still need 120 agi even with all this ASPD buffs?

Shouldn't I put more dex or vit?

 

In case u plan to use the ASPD FAW and the Agi Temp boots, u`ll prolly achieve 193aspd with 100-110 agi (Awake Pot + Celermine + VIP buffs).

Besides those ASPD gears, you can choose ASPD costumes and/or accessories to help on it.

 

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 09:23 AM

depend. temp agi give aspd+1 at 120 agi. So there is that.

btw, i dont really like aspdFaw. I feel that +9HBp offer me a lot more if i want a garment that can give aspd. 


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Posted 23 April 2015 - 07:10 PM

depend. temp agi give aspd+1 at 120 agi. So there is that.

btw, i dont really like aspdFaw. I feel that +9HBp offer me a lot more if i want a garment that can give aspd. 

Agree. Do u know any calculator with all these items? because iro calculator doesnt have temporal boots for example


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Posted 24 April 2015 - 11:51 PM

For the gear doesnt exist in calculator

Put manually by ur self, use Additional Enchants

 


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Posted 04 May 2015 - 07:05 PM

Hey guys, what do you think about this skills build?

 

http://irowiki.org/~...RrKqA4bjfdnrKwY

 


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Posted 05 May 2015 - 03:49 AM

Hey guys, what do you think about this skills build?

 

http://irowiki.org/~...RrKqA4bjfdnrKwY

 

I`d look for a way to spend 1 point in Warg Ride... not needed at all, buts its nice to have....


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Posted 05 May 2015 - 04:11 AM

Hey guys, what do you think about this skills build?

http://irowiki.org/~...RrKqA4bjfdnrKwY


Do ranger use full throttle though? I rather ditch it.
Leave Main Ranger at 1. According to wiki, it only gives flat atk and flat reduction, not via percentage.
If you ditch full throttle, you can max warg bite, aimed bolt 9 and warg ride 1.
I don't find the need for a ranger to use FT. Maybe it is just me though lol.
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Posted 05 May 2015 - 05:42 AM

You forget the most important skill > Talkie Box :D

 

Arrow SHower max it

Warg Ride is necessary, dont make ur warg sad.


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Posted 05 May 2015 - 06:00 AM

Do ranger use full throttle though? I rather ditch it.
Leave Main Ranger at 1. According to wiki, it only gives flat atk and flat reduction, not via percentage.
If you ditch full throttle, you can max warg bite, aimed bolt 9 and warg ride 1.
I don't find the need for a ranger to use FT. Maybe it is just me though lol.

But the flat atk doesnt contribute for the warg atk? 

 

You forget the most important skill > Talkie Box :D

 

Arrow SHower max it

Warg Ride is necessary, dont make ur warg sad.

I dont know why i would use the ride... is there a special case? :P

And is the rest of my sniper build ok, except for the arrow shower? (and when would I use arrow shower lvl 10??)


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Posted 05 May 2015 - 06:07 AM

Because many useless skill in 2nd Job, u can max all for the the Archer skill.

Blitx Beat? u dont need this skill at all

 

The case for ride is Look Awesome

 


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Posted 05 May 2015 - 06:09 AM

Uhh, do you fine adding like, 20 atk or whatever rather than master the warg bite which gives more?
Ride is convenient when u want to run away from mob that you don't need or that just got in your way.

Edit: w/e Star said. You'll change to warg anyway, unless you're playing both warg and falcon, which I dont think you are.

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Posted 05 May 2015 - 05:32 PM

Because many useless skill in 2nd Job, u can max all for the the Archer skill.

Blitx Beat? u dont need this skill at all

 

The case for ride is Look Awesome

 

Uhh, do you fine adding like, 20 atk or whatever rather than master the warg bite which gives more?
Ride is convenient when u want to run away from mob that you don't need or that just got in your way.

Edit: w/e Star said. You'll change to warg anyway, unless you're playing both warg and falcon, which I dont think you are.

I may use falcon  one day in Woe (for fun) and to hitlock mobs

And I still want FT because seems OP losing just 30%hp to earn 20% all stats for 30s. If defense is not an issue, it considerably improves the situation.

Is it ok warg ride just lvl 1, thinking about the speed difference between 1 and 2? I wd sacrifice warg bite to put warg ride lvl 2

 

What do u think about this new build? http://irowiki.org/~...OrKqA4bpFdArKwY


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Posted 05 May 2015 - 06:09 PM

I may use falcon  one day in Woe (for fun) and to hitlock mobs

And I still want FT because seems OP losing just 30%hp to earn 20% all stats for 30s. If defense is not an issue, it considerably improves the situation.

Is it ok warg ride just lvl 1, thinking about the speed difference between 1 and 2? I wd sacrifice warg bite to put warg ride lvl 2

 

What do u think about this new build? http://irowiki.org/~...OrKqA4bpFdArKwY

 

As it stands, Full Throttle is fairly unreliable. Don't waste points in it.


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Posted 05 May 2015 - 07:20 PM

Ranger is feeble and FT just make you more vulnerable.
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