Hello, i want to know what is better, Size reduction cards or Race reduction cards? for PvM and leveling, and what is the best shield to equip, Valkyria Shield, Immune shield or other?
Regards
Posted 04 May 2015 - 12:40 PM
Hello, i want to know what is better, Size reduction cards or Race reduction cards? for PvM and leveling, and what is the best shield to equip, Valkyria Shield, Immune shield or other?
Regards
Posted 04 May 2015 - 12:42 PM
Depends on the map, If everything is medium(biolabs) and has mixed races(demi/demon in biolabs) for example size is better. If it's mostly all the same race(abyss lake) then race makes more sense. I throw all my leveling cards in valk shields to be honest. Nice defense, easy to buy.
Posted 04 May 2015 - 04:15 PM
Posted 05 May 2015 - 08:13 AM
Oh, just as an addition, if you just want to invest in one PVM shield. A hodremlin valk shield on pretty much any class is sufficient for pvm up to 150(I haven't done any post 150 content but I doubt it's that much harder). I only ever PvM to level though, so I wouldn't go mvping with that unless you had a party and didn't care if you died.
Posted 05 May 2015 - 09:17 AM
Edited by Necrohealiac, 05 May 2015 - 09:17 AM.
Posted 05 May 2015 - 11:20 AM
Hodremlin Valk is the shield to get if you only want 1 shield for the rest of your leveling life.
As Viri said, it all depends on the map:
Some maps have a manageable variety of mobs and can be handled by certain race reductions, like Scaraba, Abbey 2, Abyss, Orcs, Biolabs 2, Juperos, Turtles. These are mostly a map where you hunt 1 or 2 mobs.
Some others have a race mix but can benefit from size reduction, like Rachel Sanctuary, Biolabs 3-4, Einbroch Dungeon or even Prontera Culverts. This maps can be the ones where you want to hunt 1 or 2 mobs but other ones cause trouble.
Some other maps are jerks and have hopelessly mixed mobs, like Nogg, Juno fields, west Comodo, Lighthalzen fields, Odin's Shrine and have to settle with a Hodremlin shield.
Racial cards are often used in cheap shields because expensive ones don't offer much more 90% of the time. There are certain ones that deserve being in a Valk Shield, but are often used for very special instances and dungeons.
Size cards are rarer because of the mobs that have them and not used that often either. Anti-medium is popular because Biolabs. Anti-small is not so good because when was the last time a small monster gave you that much trouble? Anti-big is not so popular either because scary large monsters tend to also be MVP/Boss.
Alice card is not only useful for MVP'ing, but for certain maps where Boss Mobs are everywhere, like Thor 3. Only 2 shields come to mind where putting an Alice is not a waste: Valk and Immune. Immune is useful for MVPs that don't use elemental attacks at all, like Doppel, LoD and the most infamous of all, Beelzebub.
Immune shield is a very good shield when you just want less damage from normal attacks, but needs to be +9 and up to really shine. Also, it has more specialized used than Valk or racial shields.
If you have the money, a Hodre Valk is the most average option. I myself used just a +0 Valk Shield [Clean] for a long time. :v
Posted 05 May 2015 - 01:03 PM
Posted 05 May 2015 - 03:29 PM
O.O I understand, i don't have a lot of zeny, but i can buy a Valky shield, i think (before this post) the Size reduction is better compared with Racial, I was wrong, thx for the answers
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