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[Kazara]

There never will be any balance if there are players with sets fully enchanted with rare/carus hearts, because  this enchants are insanely strong.

 

We reached a point where rich (or farmers that abused the xmas quests with many chars) players "damaged the game" in a way that free players or new players will never be able to compete in pvp or pve with this players.

 

That can be solved, just deleting this hearts, and never add this quests event.

With this wipe, there should be also a compensation, because people actually used many moneys to obtain this hearts...I would say, for example, for each carus heart got wiped, 100kk or malls...(100kk is the in game price atm).

 

If you really want to balance the game, you should start working on this enchants..you can add any super strong enchants, but they will never compete with this hearts >.<

[Sandyman]

You gave yourself the Answer.

 

They don`t want balance. 

 

Unbalancing works in there favor.

 

You only have to work the next decades on your Frozen Artifacts Guys^^ 

 

- How hard can it be to restrict an Item to there certain Grade?!

 

We can talk about for another 3-4 Years but with our current Dev`s you won`t see changes or balance.

 

 

 

 

[Crftwise]

[Dyshana]

it seems someone is getting raped too much in pvp...

[explicid17]

too late for removing them, if anything add them to strongest merchant

[hadro]

its too late sadly...but i agree that hearts are Op as and yeah Dyshana  every player who didint had/missed chance to grab hearts is kinda doomed.

 

Here is a simple math for example 89 vox con armor for wl/zerk with maximum compound will give u 210 con( took breastplate since it has hihgest stat) while 8 carus/rare hearts will net u 96/64 stat on everything which is 45/30% boost in main stat alone.

 

Lets calculate abit further: full 89 con armor for wl/zerk with maximum compound will give u 833 con stats while (8/8 carus /rare hearts) x (6 armor) will give u 576/384 stats on everything which is 70/46 % boost regarding main stats +others... tell me in any way that that isnt broken as ?;o

 

also have in mind that % are growing if your armor isnt maxed while compound.

 

truth is this is the perfect scenario where a player would have 48 carus/rare hearts but still u get the point...

 

also if anything since its late to remove them they should implement them via some battlefield as reward. it will promote battlefield and also give others a chance in pvp.

Edited by hadro, 06 May 2015 - 10:45 AM.

[Kazara]

it seems someone is getting raped too much in pvp...

 

What pvp? You mean the 2v2 theme Battle? Cough cough

[Dyshana]

its too late sadly...but i agree that hearts are Op as and yeah Dyshana  every player who didint had/missed chance to grab hearts is kinda doomed.

 

Here is a simple math for example 89 vox con armor for wl/zerk with maximum compound will give u 210 con( took breastplate since it has hihgest stat) while 8 carus/rare hearts will net u 96/64 stat on everything which is 45/30% boost in main stat alone.

 

Lets calculate abit further: full 89 con armor for wl/zerk with maximum compound will give u 833 con stats while (8/8 carus /rare hearts) x (6 armor) will give u 576/384 stats on everything which is 70/46 % boost regarding main stats +others... tell me in any way that that isnt broken as ?;o

 

also have in mind that % are growing if your armor isnt maxed while compound.

 

truth is this is the perfect scenario where a player would have 48 carus/rare hearts but still u get the point...

 

also if anything since its late to remove them they should implement them via some battlefield as reward. it will promote battlefield and also give others a chance in pvp.

 

But consider also: how many players have 48 carus hearts in the whole server? Do you think that someone got 47 alts 85+ just to get the hearts for his main? Most of the hearts were bought from other players... so what? If someone preferred fast lants to OP enchant, you cannot say now they are too OP, players should have kept their own hearts for themselves, now the diffference wouldn't be so big.

[Dyshana]

What pvp? You mean the 2v2 theme Battle? Cough cough

So you want to remove the carus hearts because you lost in 2vs2 theme? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[Kazara]

I never said I lost anywhere I m just saying it s unbalanced idk if u get the point O_o

Yea, there are crazy players full of hearts, maybe not carus, but rare that's sure O_o

You think is balanced an enchant that gives every stat, hp/mp? O_o

But I understand, u don t want to lose ur hearts hahaha

[Apollonia93]

sounds like you lost in pvp badly

dont be mad because you couldnt farm hearts, or couldnt afford to buy them.

 

removal is not a solution. go buy rares or make resonatings

[Kazara]

Remove them is a solution, u look more mad (or maybe scared) about this suggestion than me haha

Remove the OP and unbalanced items (or nerf) is always the best way to balance the game.

Nvm, they won t listen to player suggestions, so ur hearts are safe haha

[Apollonia93]

Remove them is a solution, u look more mad (or maybe scared) about this suggestion than me haha

Remove the OP and unbalanced items (or nerf) is always the best way to balance the game.

Nvm, they won t listen to player suggestions, so ur hearts are safe haha

how is that a solution?

you screw every player that farmed or bought them...

no, the solution is introduce items that can match them in OPness and are obtainable elsewhere. like RESONATINGs

quit your QQing and go farm

[Kazara]

If they put a +100000 STR enchant, that u can only get in a week of event, u call that fair and balanced?XD I remember when ppl was using 1% res xeons in equip...that was cool

[Kazara]

The new ornies aren t strong as hearts ^^

But I agree with u, that isn t the solution...the solution is a total wipe and back to S1 ^^

[hadro]

Kazara removing them is not an option.. u cant remove encahnts that are in game for almost a year +, i am not an expert so tell me if i am wrong but i think that removing them and compensate ALL players with ALL hearts would need alot of time.. And when it comes to apolonia and dyshana u sound like a classcal i *p2w i good* players... no is hateing on u coz u have hearts so no need for defensive stance lol. i was just pointing out that the HEARTS  as enchants are Op and thats all. Or u think that they are balanced?

 

And yeah like i said they should be putting hearts or similiar new enchants w/e to match them in battlefields as reward for example so it would promote bfs once again.

Edited by hadro, 06 May 2015 - 12:18 PM.

[Apollonia93]

The new ornies aren t strong as hearts ^^

But I agree with u, that isn t the solution...the solution is a total wipe and back to S1 ^^

sure wipe out progress of all players.

again not a solution

new server thats S1 based, THAT can be a solution, MAYBE.

 

and yeah resonating are as strong as hearts, actually stronger

resonating are 15 per stat, hearts are 12.

[Kazara]

Also, if u read, I said to compensate players that lost hearts with lant/malls.

 

[Apollonia93]

Also, if u read, I said to compensate players that lost hearts with lant/malls.

how? going to ask how much each person spent?

dont forget enchanting costs, re-enchanting costs.

impossible to compensate.

[Kazara]

and yeah resonating are as strong as hearts, actually stronger

resonating are 15 per stat, hearts are 12.

 

2 stats, not 5.

[hadro]

how? going to ask how much each person spent?

dont forget enchanting costs, re-enchanting costs.

impossible to compensate.

 

^ exactly this, its imposible to compensate everything... it would just be a timeloss for gravity/players and it would hurt economie so bad..

[Apollonia93]

2 stats, not 5.

right, and you need all 5 for which toon again?

commander - int str

zerk - int str

wl - int str

all casters - mnd int

sins - str dex

prot - int mnd

65 HP

65 MP

vs 70 hp on hearts (counting con + hp)

not that big of a difference

[Kazara]

They wiped eximius hearts in a -_- second, shouldn't be a problem do the same on rare and carus ones.

And resonating costs more than hearts.

 

[Apollonia93]

They wiped eximius hearts in a second, shouldn't be a problem do the same on rare and carus ones.

And resonating costs more than hearts.

they wiped out eximus hearts because they were bugged

also eximus hearts are crap

also, players fault for abusing bug.

also, yes resonating are more than hearts and are better, so stop qqing about hearts.

[Kazara]

Say me how should a free player farm thousands and thousands and thousands of tokens, xeons etc.. Only a mall player can have that items, and we back to the unbalanced system.