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#26 4782131221082418730

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Posted 19 May 2015 - 12:42 PM

turkey on head is worth it for the hp/sp modifier.

 

SP?


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 12:48 PM

Aw thanks ^^ imma stock up since this npc is not perm correct?

 

Just checked. 5k for 5 eggs and only can buy 5 eggs each time.Renouille's milk is way better.


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 12:57 PM

Just checked. 5k for 5 eggs and only can buy 5 eggs each time.Renouille's milk is way better.

Oh no! Its like buying guarana candy :(
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Posted 19 May 2015 - 03:25 PM

where do you buy eggs?


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 03:35 PM

SP?


yes. check the item description.
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Posted 19 May 2015 - 03:51 PM

yes. check the item description.

 

:waddle: link.I am lazy.


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 03:52 PM

guess you'll just need to take my word for it then.
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Posted 19 May 2015 - 04:26 PM

where do you buy eggs?

 

http://irowiki.org/w...13_Easter_Event


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 05:10 PM

Not forever. Do what we did on Classic and buy a few storages full of them, so that when they're no longer available you can jack up the price!

 

-_- VOH quest.

 

FFS can you like not spread around the secret to my zeny making success?!


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 06:50 PM

i'm going to have to see numbers before i'll believe eggs are actually good healing.
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Posted 19 May 2015 - 07:24 PM

i'm going to have to see numbers before i'll believe eggs are actually good healing.

 

 

Don't people use iro wiki anymore?
http://irowiki.org/wiki/Healing_Items
Look towards the bottom.

 

Gear or Card Item Affected Healing Increase 18656.pngWitch's Pumpkin Hat 5086.pngAlarm Mask 535.pngPumpkin 538.pngWell-baked Cookie 2,000% (approximately) 18671.pngRudolf Hairband 515.pngCarrot 1,000% (approximately) 5778.pngTurkey On Your Head 574.pngEgg 2,000% (approximately)

Pumpkins heal ~19hp
Carrots heal ~19hp
Eggs heal ~37hp

Pumpkin x 2000% = ~380
Carrot x 1000% = ~190

Egg x 2000% = ~750

Compare to white potion at ~365hp

 

Just for fun, Umbala Spirit + 2x Hell Poodle cards makes meat do about 191.  But meat is heavy...

The reason FiM is kinda meh is because it's only a 25% boost to fish, which heal on average 125, bringing it to 156

Finally, Ice Cream averages 125, and a pair of Snowier card doubles it to 250, as long as you don't mind getting frozen once in while.

   

Flamel doubles condensed pots, and that still brings a condensed white up to an average of 730.


Edited by MizunoAoi, 19 May 2015 - 07:33 PM.

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Posted 19 May 2015 - 08:55 PM

   

Flamel doubles condensed pots, and that still brings a condensed white up to an average of 730.

you sure?

 

 

you forgot about vit modifier, increase hp recovery bonus for swordman class & potion research for biochemist class

 

top 10 list condesed pots has 50% bonus healing as well


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 09:26 PM

 

you sure?

 

 

you forgot about vit modifier, increase hp recovery bonus for swordman class & potion research for biochemist class

 

top 10 list condesed pots has 50% bonus healing as well

 

 

Not everyone is a swordie/biochem who can afford ranked slims who stacks vit.  If you want you can crunch that yourself.


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 10:17 PM

Just use this logic:
The more equipment slots they take,the more they heal.

WPH+AM wins above all the others you mentioned.


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 10:22 PM

WPH + Alarm Mask is the best IMO

 

But my Sera Gen, still loves fish in his mouth  :rice: That way i can use a good hat on his head  :rice:


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 10:47 PM

Not everyone is a swordie/biochem who can afford ranked slims who stacks vit.  If you want you can crunch that yourself.

not everyone can afford WPH+AM as well

 

lets just stick to red potions  :p_idea:


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Posted 20 May 2015 - 12:29 AM

I had no idea the recovery boost was so big on those gears. i'll have to make an alarm mask or two


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Posted 20 May 2015 - 03:15 AM

I dont know if refinement changes recovery rate of egg but... from what ive seen on my genetic turkey + egg heal is worse than aloe so id say its not worth it.


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Posted 20 May 2015 - 05:13 AM

Gear or Card Item Affected Healing Increase 18656.pngWitch's Pumpkin Hat 5086.pngAlarm Mask 535.pngPumpkin 538.pngWell-baked Cookie 2,000% (approximately) 18671.pngRudolf Hairband 515.pngCarrot 1,000% (approximately) 5778.pngTurkey On Your Head 574.pngEgg 2,000% (approximately)
Pumpkins heal ~19hp
Carrots heal ~19hp
Eggs heal ~37hp

Pumpkin x 2000% = ~380
Carrot x 1000% = ~190
Egg x 2000% = ~750

Compare to white potion at ~365hp
 
Just for fun, Umbala Spirit + 2x Hell Poodle cards makes meat do about 191.  But meat is heavy...
The reason FiM is kinda meh is because it's only a 25% boost to fish, which heal on average 125, bringing it to 156
Finally, Ice Cream averages 125, and a pair of Snowier card doubles it to 250, as long as you don't mind getting frozen once in while.
   
Flamel doubles condensed pots, and that still brings a condensed white up to an average of 730.


thanks for the research; I don't recall eggs ever healing that much though; i'll need to check it out when I get home :x
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Posted 20 May 2015 - 05:57 AM

Ranked condensed white pot healing at 547.5.

With Flamel it heals about 1095.
Maybe I should buy one Flamel now.


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Posted 20 May 2015 - 06:02 AM

Fish in mouth's bonus should be raised to +55% at least, that way it's more competitive with rudolph.


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Posted 20 May 2015 - 06:08 AM

I need more weeds ;x


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Posted 20 May 2015 - 06:54 AM

Fish is just for the lolz.

Doesnt heal enough to be usefull for my chars.

 

WPH still beats the s*** out of the other Healing Hats.


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Posted 20 May 2015 - 07:38 AM

I just dont get it with WPH+AM combo. Based on the calculation it is inferior to the Turkey hat, but many people praised it to be better than the Turkey itself? The weight/heal ratio is also inferior to turkey hat... so whats up with that?

 

 

 


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Posted 20 May 2015 - 08:44 AM

I just dont get it with WPH+AM combo. Based on the calculation it is inferior to the Turkey hat, but many people praised it to be better than the Turkey itself? The weight/heal ratio is also inferior to turkey hat... so whats up with that?


I need to test the egg recovery but the wph actually has damage bonuses to UD/Demon race and has some stats as well. swapping to a gozarian mask will also add extra atk/matk too; just need to toggle alarm mask when healing. wph has a lot more utility than turkey on head, which only gives 2 str and passive hp/sp inc based on refine.
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