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[Lazaruce]

Hi Folks!

 

So I was able to reset and build a pure RK with the following Gear and Stats :

 

STR 1x

AGI 50

VIT 100

INT 100

DEX 121

LUK 1

 

+7 CoD

Well chewed pencil

+9 Fire Armor of Ares

+11 Tae goo leon of frost (spell 3/3)  << yeah wrong card

+9 FAW of Shooter (spell 7/6/6)

+4 Temp dex boots (spell 3)

pair of glorious rings

 

switch with other equips like +10 4x AS MG and +9 Cranial VS

 

I can work without phen due to the fast cast and able to parry when mobbed.

the problem i see is that i can't really spam db. i checked the forums and found that DB has a fixed after cast delay and i don't know if there's a way to override it.

I saw a hummingbird db and that was the main reason I switched from DPS

at this rate , DB won't be much help as far as solo mvp and even woe due to reductions

 

need feedback here.

thanks!

[Ryviux]

you only need 120dex for the temp boots.

and DB can't be interrupted. There is not need for a phen card.

I could be wrong but the COD doesn't do anything for Fix cast delays.

Also the Spell Enchant only reduce variable cast delay not Fix cast delay.

You really should be getting EA enchants instead of sp enchants.

Glorious Popular Suit 20% HP is better then +9 fire armor. The card in the fire armor doesn't effect DB.

 

Edited by Ryviux, 25 May 2015 - 11:18 AM.

[Lazaruce]

I used to have EA set as well but I was doing experimenting to acquire hummingbird dragon breath

any advice on how to obtain it?

[EinZweiDrei]

you only need 120dex for the temp boots.

and DB can't be interrupted. There is not need for a phen card.

I could be wrong but the COD doesn't do anything for Fix cast delays.

Also the Spell Enchant only reduce variable cast delay not Fix cast delay.

You really should be getting EA enchants instead of sp enchants.

Glorious Popular Suit 20% HP is better then +9 fire armor. The card in the fire armor doesn't effect DB.

 

actually the peco card in armor gives 10% hp so it does help with DB damage. but everything else you say is correct.

[RaveMaster]

Hi Folks!

 

So I was able to reset and build a pure RK with the following Gear and Stats :

 

STR 1x Get some str for carry items and Damage with HS or Crushing Strike 40-50

AGI 50 

VIT 100 if you can add more vit its perfect

INT 100

DEX 121  120 its enough

LUK 1

 

+7 CoD ??    +9 Or +12 Turkey with Carat (MaxSP) or Bunginsgis card (MaxHP 2% per 2 refines of headgear)

Well chewed pencil     > Giant Octopus Ballon for some Extra MaxSP

+9 Fire Armor of Ares Fighting vs Ifrit? of course, but we are talking about PVM so you dont need it.

- Glorious Suit

- Ur's Plated (if refined much better for aditional MaxHP) and can be enchanted with Vit/MaxHP.

 

+11 Tae goo leon of frost (spell 3/3)  << yeah wrong card    And wrong enchants. Example: +9 /+ TGL (x2 AS Cards, EA 9+)

+9 FAW of Shooter (spell 7/6/6) Wrong enchants, get EA (Expert Archer), after the Fix of DB "now its a (ranged Physical damage)

+4 Temp dex boots (spell 3) Try +9 Superior Temporal Dex Boots

pair of glorious rings Well, for WOE these rings are great, PVM? no, you need SP Boost Example: Ur's Seal 250 SP (Kafra Blossom Card for +10% Basic Elemental resistance or Spore card +2 Vit)

 

switch with other equips like +10 4x AS MG and +9 Cranial VS     About the Shield... Cranial is very useful in PVP and WOE, for PVM the most recommended and used is Hodremlin Card that gives +15% Small/Medium/Large Size reductions

 

I can work without phen due to the fast cast and able to parry when mobbed.

the problem i see is that i can't really spam db. i checked the forums and found that DB has a fixed after cast delay and i don't know if there's a way to override it.

I saw a hummingbird db and that was the main reason I switched from DPS

at this rate , DB won't be much help as far as solo mvp and even woe due to reductions

 

need feedback here.

thanks!

 

 

Fixed ^ 

Edited by Legendario2300, 25 May 2015 - 12:26 PM.

[kasshin]

Are you building your gears assuming you will permanently have strings? That's a big consideration. Otherwise you need Kiels, or you might want to gear differently and be okay with being out-DPSed by other classes.

[Lazaruce]

I'm working to have stringer at the moment.

I have those gears and stats since I thought that it will make me a hummingbird but it didn't work

i'm from thor so kiel headgears will be hard for me to get since i can't even confirm if mvp cards are now dropping ( given thor's status as of now . not to mention that the competition will be hard due to other equipments were wiped then some folks got everything intact )

[Lazaruce]

Fixed ^ 

 

i'll see what i can do with the gears

so bottom line is i should invest on damage and hp than spammability , right?

[hotel]

yes, the general consensus is that EA enchants/max HP will do more for your dps than cast time reduction.

[Lazaruce]

need to re-work those equips , then

 

thanks fer all the feedback!

[kasshin]

Umm... if assuming stringer, then you should still minimize your cast time in my opinion. I'm not sure where these people are getting their "general consensus" from. If you have a good stringer, all your cast delay is removed already, and ~45% of your cast time is removed too. So you just need ~55% in total to remove all of your variable cast. Your gears in the beginning of the post have a lot more than 55, so that's a waste. You don't need TGL either if you have a stringer. iRO does have a custom reuse delay put in because of no-delay abusers though, but that isn't a huge deal. If you have a stringer, you should still minimize your variable cast. Some people say they prefer having just 99% reduction so that they still have a cast bar; they say it helps spammability. You can try both and see what works better for you.

[Lazaruce]

oh the hummingbird db no longer works?

A stringer will take time since i never had a stringer before and i am a solo player so i have to do some research while working on the gears

[vividort]

With the lv 175 cap getting IC with pure stats is way better than bothering with % cast reduction.

[Lazaruce]

I'm currently 150 and I haven't done any bio entrance quest since I was prepping more on gears to ensure i can grind quests on all other characters that i manage

[kasshin]

Even with insta-cast via % reduction or via stats, you still have a huge global delay that is only reduceable by strings or kiels (in a significant enough way). TGL does give quite a bit of cast delay reduction but it's pretty much only used by kiels users to stack on top. For solo play without a stringer and also without kiels, that's okay as long as you're fine with being out-DPSed by other classes.

[hotel]

minimizing cast time is fine if you have strings but if you're going solo w/o strings/kiels then it's not really worth it imo. assuming 120 dex and 100 int, that's already a cast time of 0.4 seconds. getting 50% cast time reduction will only reduce that to 0.2 seconds, while forgoing a lot of additional ranged damage.

Edited by hotel, 25 May 2015 - 05:31 PM.

[Lazaruce]

currently working on ea set . thanks for continous feedback . i will post the gears and stats later

[MournHaibara]

My RK Stat and Gear for your reference. I think this is a very traditional and basic build w/o any MVPs

 

+12 Turkey On the Head with Bunginsgis Card (+18%HP and 12%SP, Proc Agi Up)

Sunglasses with Inccubus Card (SP+150)

Giant Octopus Ballon (SP+30, V+1, I+1)

+9 TGL EA9 with 2 Archer Skeleton Card

+9 Anti Magic Suit with Pecopeco Card (Max HP+17%, more HP than +9 Ur Max Vit/HP enchant)

+9 FAW EA9 with Menblatt Card (Tons of Range Attack Damage)

+9 Temp Dex Boots with Firelock Soldier Card (You can get EA4 enchant, but I feel none of the secondary enchant is good for DB RK)

Ur Seal Sp+250*2. (Working on KBC now)

 

I also prepare a +9 Vanagrand for SP leech when there's no sorc in team. Also a +9 Mace with 4 Archer Skeleton Card in case I will have to use shield). I also have +9 Ur Plate V+4 HP+400 and other Ur Set gears in the case of Hundred Spears (against MVPs where DB don't have good damage)

 

Stats is: S1, A60, V100, I90, D120, L1. I plan to get I to 100 then allocate all other to S

[Lazaruce]

I will have to dig a lot of OCAs to get Incubus unless I can get somewhere without doing "The Sign" quest

 

Giant Octopus will have to wait until the next payout and I wish Firesale returns with it

 

My TGL is really off and I don't have a spare one to enchant I'm stuck to +10 4x AS MG (Why Mace btw?)

 

Anti Magic Suit.....wait we never had that back in pRO . Please tell me how to get one

 

I think I can get a lot of Ur's parts since I'm a mora grinder but uggh .. another +9 set to spend for enrich eluniums. it would be best to abuse MRS hammer while we still have her

 

KBC? but I'm a broke dude I don't have the zeny to gamble for it and they won't sell it for zenny that's why I stick to glorious rings

[hotel]

the quad AS mace is used for indestructibility. the anti magic suit is obtained from the geffen magic tournament instance through spending the coins you earn there. the suit costs 1800 coins and i think you earn around 100 coins each time you clear the whole thing (which can be difficult on some classes). personally i'd recommend a glorious suit instead, more HP and easier to get.

 

as for the ur's seals, from personal experience it's a lot easier to just buy them if you can than trying to make some yourself.

[DarkGazer]

as for the ur's seals, from personal experience it's a lot easier to just buy them if you can than trying to make some yourself.

 

Preach it.