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#1 Rinya

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Posted 28 May 2015 - 03:58 AM

i'm curious about this
 


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Posted 28 May 2015 - 04:01 AM

i'm curious about this
 

 

Holy crap I'm sorry, this is what I get for answering half asleep.

 

The answer is YES, it does 1 damage, assuming it works the same way as racial reduction. I don't think it's possible for normal attacks from a mob to be reduced to zero as it actually is its own thing. (elementals can be reduced to zero but neutral mob attacks are not an element)

 

Note tho: Neutral property attacks such as critical attack and clashing spiral will still have their % damage applied and do more than 1.


Edited by Xellie, 28 May 2015 - 04:41 AM.

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Posted 28 May 2015 - 04:47 AM

you're still getting hit, so no.
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Posted 28 May 2015 - 05:30 AM

thank you for the answer

1.Resistance to Non Elemental
2.more tolerance against Neutral Property Attack
3.attack damage from all monsters
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Reduces damage from all elements
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resistance to all elemental properties
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 tolerance against Neutral attack

non elemental? neutral property atk? all elements? all monsters?
tolerance? resistance?

so confused!!!

i'm also curious about these vagueness @-@ 
do they stack?

if i want to get 100% neutral resist, suggestions about gears and items are welcomed


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Posted 28 May 2015 - 05:31 AM

pretty sure Jaye answered several of these questions recently.
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Posted 28 May 2015 - 05:50 AM

+12 Palace Guard Cap -  12%
3D Glasses - 5%
+9 HBP + Deviling Card - 60%
+12 Immune Shield + Tatacho Card - 32% (unsure if the card will stack/work on elemental monsters)

Skin Temping + 5% (blacksmith)


Edited by IronFist, 28 May 2015 - 05:55 AM.

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Posted 28 May 2015 - 06:23 AM

tatacho doesnt work this way ;) its neutral element monster not neutral damage. (so its useless most of the time)


Edited by vividort, 28 May 2015 - 06:23 AM.

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Posted 28 May 2015 - 06:28 AM

Marionette Pet 20% neutral reduct 


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Posted 28 May 2015 - 06:32 AM

tatacho cards reduce all attacks from neutral elemental monsters like metaling, agav. not neutral elemental attack from monsters
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Posted 28 May 2015 - 06:44 AM

As always, posting with confident without noticing anything. 


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Posted 28 May 2015 - 07:18 AM

Pain Killer from Sera > reduce most dmg from monster to 1  :p_love:


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Posted 28 May 2015 - 07:32 AM

Pain Killer from Sera > reduce most dmg from monster to 1 :p_love:


Yup lol
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Posted 28 May 2015 - 07:51 AM

Tidung for 5% (description says all races but apparently it reduces all elements).
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Posted 28 May 2015 - 07:58 AM

Okay so 100% 

 

+17 Palace Guard Cap - 17%

3D Glasses - 22%
+9 HBP + Deviling Card - 82%
+12 Immune Shield + Parasite Card - 95% 
Skin Temping - 100%

 

 

Edited by IronFist, 28 May 2015 - 08:02 AM.

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Posted 28 May 2015 - 07:59 AM

I know 100% dragon resist dropped damage to 1, never could get it down to misses though. So i'd imagine this would be the same, you'd still get hitlocked.


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Posted 28 May 2015 - 08:32 AM

Okay so 100%


+17 Palace Guard Cap - 17%
3D Glasses - 22%
+9 HBP + Deviling Card - 82%
+12 Immune Shield + Parasite Card - 95%
Skin Temping - 100%


Parasite card does not currently reduce neutral element damage (reduces formless monster damage currently) on iRO. Most recently mentioned by someone in this Tiki Tuesday thread: http://forums.warppo...thread-for-512/
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Posted 28 May 2015 - 08:51 AM

Ok, this is kind of good question. Is Tatacho good or not? Is it like deviling or ghostring?
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Posted 28 May 2015 - 08:58 AM

Parasite card does not currently reduce neutral element damage (reduces formless monster damage currently) on iRO. Most recently mentioned by someone in this Tiki Tuesday thread: http://forums.warppo...thread-for-512/


also if you had the funds to get a +17 palace guard cap I have a few bridges in Alaska I can sell to you at a deep discount.
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Posted 28 May 2015 - 09:02 AM

Ok, this is kind of good question. Is Tatacho good or not? Is it like deviling or ghostring?

as irowiki states is like aqua elemental and cornus cards http://irowiki.org/w...monster_element


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Posted 28 May 2015 - 09:12 AM

I know 100% dragon resist dropped damage to 1, never could get it down to misses though. So i'd imagine this would be the same, you'd still get hitlocked.

I can only recall these 3. What more we have? 

*dragon breath garment %15

*sky petite  card %30

*golden dragon costume  %12


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Posted 28 May 2015 - 09:15 AM

also if you had the funds to get a +17 palace guard cap I have a few bridges in Alaska I can sell to you at a deep discount.

 

+ 17 palace guard cap would cost like $15 million USD in kafra points assuming statistical average if converted into HD carnium.  Slightly less if you convert WPE into KP in bulk.

 

Thats... a little out of my price range.


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Posted 28 May 2015 - 09:18 AM

I can only recall these 3. What more we have? 
*dragon breath garment %15
*sky petite  card %30
*golden dragon costume  %12


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Posted 28 May 2015 - 09:29 AM

I can only recall these 3. What more we have? 

*dragon breath garment %15

*sky petite  card %30

*golden dragon costume  %12

 

Sky petite 30 , dragon breath 15, dragonology 20, dragon skull 5 so that's 70. Anddddddddddd we had a miscarded clip(another sky petite) so that put a scholar at 100%. Made nyd pre renewal pretty easy lmao.(this was a long time ago)
 

 

EDIT: HERE I FOUND IT. Too lazy to download image and rehost. And I did use these at one point, they are not photoshopped.

 

http://forums.irowik...49&d=1278799606


Edited by Viri, 28 May 2015 - 09:39 AM.

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Posted 28 May 2015 - 10:01 AM

also if you had the funds to get a +17 palace guard cap I have a few bridges in Alaska I can sell to you at a deep discount.

 

maybe it's just because i'm way tired but this made me laugh xD


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#25 Rinya

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Posted 28 May 2015 - 10:02 AM

Parasite card does not currently reduce neutral element damage (reduces formless monster damage currently) on iRO. Most recently mentioned by someone in this Tiki Tuesday thread: http://forums.warppo...thread-for-512/

Well both parasite and harpy card are reducing formless race dmg, correct?

Then, what are they supposed to do in the first place? neutral reduction or formless dmg reduction? KRO?


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