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#1 DeadIntern

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Posted 05 June 2015 - 06:54 AM

Hi guys, can I just double check if I'm understanding the formula in irowiki correctly?

 

The Exceed Break formula on irowiki says:

 

Damage formulaATK [{(Skill level * 100) + (Job Level * 10)} + (Weapon Weight * Weapon Level) * (Base Level/ 100)] %

 

So... does that means if I (say, lv 125/25) use +9 Hunting Spear (weight = 420), I'll be getting:

 

= ATK [{(5 * 100) + (25 * 10)} + (420 * 9)*(125/100)]%

= ATK [(500 + 250) + (3,780)(1.25)]%

= ATK [750 + 4,725]%

= 5,475% ATK ?   :p_omg:

 

 


Edited by DeadIntern, 05 June 2015 - 06:55 AM.

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Posted 05 June 2015 - 07:21 AM

you mistook weapon level (hunting spear = 4) for refine level

Hi guys, can I just double check if I'm understanding the formula in irowiki correctly?

 

The Exceed Break formula on irowiki says:

 

 

So... does that means if I (say, lv 125/25) use +9 Hunting Spear (weight = 420), I'll be getting:

 

= ATK [{(5 * 100) + (25 * 10)} + (420 * 4)*(125/100)]%

= ATK [(500 + 250) + (1,680)(1.25)]%

= ATK [750 + 2,100]%

= 2,850% ATK ?   :p_omg:

so 2,850% ATK


Edited by ka10, 05 June 2015 - 07:21 AM.

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#3 ChakriGuard

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Posted 05 June 2015 - 07:51 AM

This one above seems correctly. Time to buff Exceed break skill and fix the bug already lmao


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Posted 05 June 2015 - 08:29 AM

I think there's something off with the formula (or might be my misscalculation)

 

I was testing EB with Gae Bolg +0 (160atk, 200weight) on a Orc Warrior (52 Hard Defence, 34 Soft Defence)

my 141/41 RG have 95 total Str (180 SATK)

so my normal crit atk should be [(360+268+50)*4052/4520 - 34]*1.4 = 802

is exactly what I got, a constant 802

 

EB = 2038%

I should be getting 17294 crit atk

but what I actually got is a constant 22015 (which is about 2593%)

 

did I miss something ? D=


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Posted 05 June 2015 - 08:42 AM

 

you mistook weapon level (hunting spear = 4) for refine level

so 2,850% ATK

 

Ah I knew it! It's too good to be true XD

 

Thanks for the info.

 

 

I think there's something off with the formula (or might be my misscalculation)

 

I was testing EB with Gae Bolg +0 (160atk, 200weight) on a Orc Warrior (52 Hard Defence, 34 Soft Defence)

my 141/41 RG have 95 total Str (180 SATK)

so my normal crit atk should be [(360+268+50)*4052/4520 - 34]*1.4 = 802

is exactly what I got, a constant 802

 

EB = 2038%

I should be getting 17294 crit atk

but what I actually got is a constant 22015 (which is about 2593%)

 

did I miss something ? D=

 

well, at least it has more damage. more damage is good. :>

 

edit: 

 

Hm, perhaps the bracketing in the formula is misplaced?

 

So instead of

 

EB =  [{(Skill level * 100) + (Job Level * 10)} + (Weapon Weight * Weapon Level) * (Base Level/ 100)] %

 

Maybe it's supposed to be:

 

EB =  [{(Skill level * 100) + (Job Level * 10) + (Weapon Weight * Weapon Level)} * (Base Level/ 100)] %

 

Which results in 2411%, albeit still quite far from the 2593%


Edited by DeadIntern, 05 June 2015 - 08:53 AM.

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#6 KudanSeishirou

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Posted 05 June 2015 - 08:57 AM

Looks like it has +554% somewhere in the formula on my level.

tested again with Pole Axe getting 3071% instead of 2517%

and with Long Horn getting 2028% instead of 1474%

 

i don;t have another +0 spear anymore LoL


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Posted 13 June 2015 - 04:03 AM

 

Looks like it has +554% somewhere in the formula on my level.

tested again with Pole Axe getting 3071% instead of 2517%

and with Long Horn getting 2028% instead of 1474%

 

i don;t have another +0 spear anymore LoL

 

 

 

Did a little test after reading your interesting post lol..

 

 

My level is 150/50, satk=179.

 

Poring def is 2+1

 

(I did it with bare hand so i dont have to deal with the floating damage part...)

 

 

 

So...

 

Normal atk damage should be [(179*2+0+0)*(4002/4020)-1]=355.397  

 

which i did 355 on poring(Non-crit).

Spoiler

 

For EB, I only have level 1.

Therefore in my case, I should get [(1*100)+(50*10)+0]= 600%atk ;0 because no weapon on.

 

The EB damage was 3562(Non-crit).

 

 

Spoiler

 

 

3562 is roughly 1003% atk rather than 600%atk.

 

So unless I'm dumb missing something, or I'm gonna say there's about 400% boots on EB?!! :D


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#8 KudanSeishirou

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Posted 13 June 2015 - 04:53 AM

Looks like the formula is Simply wrong.

from what I see, the Formula for EB should be around this :

 

[(100 + 15*Job Level + 150*Exceed Break Level) + (Weapon Weight x Weapon Level) * Base Level/100]% ATK


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Posted 13 June 2015 - 04:59 AM

Looks like the formula is Simply wrong.

from what I see, the Formula for EB should be around this :

 

[(100 + 15*Job Level + 150*Exceed Break Level) + (Weapon Weight x Weapon Level) * Base Level/100]% ATK

 

Yes I do get 1000%atk using that formula

So I guess we're still using the old formula ?! :o

 

It was supposed to be nerfed using the new formula, so thank god .. lol


Edited by cfuu, 13 June 2015 - 05:01 AM.

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