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#1 MongoMoves

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 02:37 AM

I saw some players that have unlimited duration for new car pets and asked them how do they get that. They said that after applying multiple pet randomizer the pet duration became unlimited but has no stats and you can't use pet randomizer again on this pet. I just want to know if this is a bug because it's annoying that after spending a lot of pet randomizer the car pet will just turn into that..


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#2 Fliederduft78

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 04:38 AM

Really?

 

Can you pleas define: "multiple" and "a lot"?  :p_smile:

 

I used one pet randomizer on my new car and it just switched from str to health....... :p_conf:


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Posted 05 July 2015 - 04:48 AM

This is what they're talking about :

 

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Only needed 11 randomizers to make it like this, but it's pretty... weird. Using another randomizer doesn't have any effect, except actually removing said randomizer from your inventory while telling you to please try later.


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#4 Nobbye

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 04:58 AM

Really weird, I used over 30 randomizers on my sportster and they worked just normally  :Emo_17:


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Posted 05 July 2015 - 05:07 AM

Well, if you read the description of the randomizer, you will realize.
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Posted 05 July 2015 - 05:10 AM

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how in the hell this player got this kind of stats??


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Posted 05 July 2015 - 05:56 AM

http://imagehosting.io/image/vWc

 

how in the h*** this player got this kind of stats??

 

There's nothing strange with this. Although it's rare, pets can have four options. They probably used lots and lots of randomisers or were very lucky.

 

The thing with a randomiser making a car pet into the kind of pet with unlimited time but no options could be a bug. Even if you get a blank you should still be able to use another randomiser on it.


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#8 Literal

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 06:08 AM

Max and Min Magic attack is calculated as 1 option under the category ( Magic Effect ). 


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Posted 05 July 2015 - 08:19 AM

I saw some players that have unlimited duration for new car pets and asked them how do they get that. They said that after applying multiple pet randomizer the pet duration became unlimited but has no stats and you can't use pet randomizer again on this pet. I just want to know if this is a bug because it's annoying that after spending a lot of pet randomizer the car pet will just turn into that..

 
This should not happen, but this has nothing to do with the new cars. Maybe this could have something to do with the last database problem we had. I will let the staff know on Monday for investigation.
 

Really weird, I used over 30 randomizers on my sportster and they worked just normally  :Emo_17:

 
When did you use the 30 randomizers? Would be good to know so we maybe can isolate a specific period when the "bug" happened.

This is what they're talking about :
 
Only needed 11 randomizers to make it like this, but it's pretty... weird. Using another randomizer doesn't have any effect, except actually removing said randomizer from your inventory while telling you to please try later.


When did that happen to you?

Edited by VModPopcorn, 05 July 2015 - 08:24 AM.

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#10 5143121023173906760

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 08:51 AM

The unlimited use term happened rarely for players when the update just came out.

 

Right after the fix of the database error, I used 10 pet option randomizers on 10 different pets, 10 times unlimited :)

But today, the unlimited issue seems fixed, I used 10 other pet options randomizers, and they worked properly, and I also saw no one complaining about it, so ~


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Posted 05 July 2015 - 08:54 AM

Okay, then I will try to clarify how we can solve this for the affected players.

I think we will find a way and I'll inform you about this when I had the chance to speak to the production team on Monday or Tuesday.

 


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#12 Nobbye

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 09:43 AM

When did you use the 30 randomizers? Would be good to know so we maybe can isolate a specific period when the "bug" happened.

I used the randomizers yesterday (saturday) around 8pm CET.
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Posted 05 July 2015 - 11:42 AM

Oh, I don't mind having an unlimited pet... unless you give me something 'interesting', like 72 Hlt / 28% Attack speed. ~


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Posted 05 July 2015 - 12:36 PM

I just bought a car from market used 6 RR and it got the bug, so i bought a 2nd car used 1 RR and i got the bug on it again. I now have 2 cars with unlimited health.


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Posted 05 July 2015 - 05:57 PM

So... the unimited "opt" is a glicth or the glicth is use pet opt scroll to change from opt to unlimited? :p_swt:


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Posted 05 July 2015 - 08:59 PM

I used ~60 randomizers between two car pets, and never experienced the glitch. I wouldn't be able to tell you when it was though. It was before the HDD failed and the server took a nap though.
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Posted 05 July 2015 - 09:23 PM

I used ~60 randomizers between two car pets, and never experienced the glitch. I wouldn't be able to tell you when it was though. It was before the HDD failed and the server took a nap though.

 

Yeah, I feared this. It seems it's still a problem with the database. I already sent the staff a message to request investigation.

It seems this problem could happen to any pet, not just to the car pets.

Please refrain from randomizing pets at the moment, if you don't want to end up with a blank pet.

 

I will clarify how to go on for everyone who already has been hit by this problem.

 

I will keep you informed.

 

PS: If you encounter other strange this happening then please let me know immediately by PM or here on the forums. Thank you!


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#18 ManItsMike

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 09:45 PM

Thanks, captain poppy! I'll pass along the message to anyone I can. Does someone want to go shout it in trade chat/megaphone? I'm kind of at work, standing on a ladder right now :P
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Posted 05 July 2015 - 09:49 PM

Do so if you want, it's important that this message reaches as many players as possible. Thank you!

 


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Posted 12 July 2015 - 10:14 AM

Hello,

 

we are still investigating this issue and we need some more informations since we weren't able to reproduce this behavior using hundreds of randomizers.

 

It would be great to have the following informations provided by the affected players:

  • Have you been in a party while randomizing the car?
  • If yes, have one or more of the other party members randomized their cars at the same time?

Thank you in advance for your help. We really appreciate it.

 


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Posted 12 July 2015 - 10:27 AM

No party but, I did buy the car through market before it happened.


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Posted 12 July 2015 - 10:27 AM

Err, I believe someone I know indeed used one when partying with me (who already had a pet without stats). They instantly got a blank and unlimited duration.

I asked them now, so it might not be exactly what happened (it was three days ago).


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Posted 12 July 2015 - 10:42 AM

Hm,

 

strange I just tried it in a party too and it works perfectly for me using more than 25 randomizers while my test mate also used about 13.

Both cars are okay.

 

Next question, and please be honest, you may answer by PM if so. This is not meant for possible punishment, nothing will happen. And please don't get me wrong and don't assume someone of you does this, but it would be great know:

  • Do you copy old/different tb.bin/tb2.bin files to the client's "table" folder after patching?
  • Do you use a client from another server for playing?
  • Do you use a tool for pressing they keys while randomizing instead of pressing the keys manually?

Thank you.

 


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#24 Homurasan

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Posted 12 July 2015 - 11:10 AM

None of the above. I indeed use a tool for pressing keys, but not for my Sorcerer (X-spam one), so I wasn't when I randomized mine and I believe my friend wasn't either.


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#25 Fliederduft78

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Posted 12 July 2015 - 11:17 AM

Hmm, do you happen to know which pet stage (1,2,3) your pet was as you tried to randomize it?

(or maybe your friend does know in which the one of him/her was?)

 

Or the other ones that are affected by this issue. Do you happen to know this?

 

Scrambled, what about you? You said you purchased the car from the market. Can you remember in which pet stage it was in?

 

I randomized mine in pet stage 1, directly after getting it out of the egg and had no problems. Still have none, till this day.


Edited by Fliederduft78, 12 July 2015 - 11:18 AM.

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