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#1 hannabanana1

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Posted 07 July 2015 - 02:28 PM

If i refine my hat in +9, this card give +9 str or is only +3 (because reduce -6) ?


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Posted 07 July 2015 - 02:29 PM

+3


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Posted 07 July 2015 - 02:52 PM

+3

 

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Posted 07 July 2015 - 03:25 PM

It's good if your headgear upgrade to +12 ^^
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Posted 07 July 2015 - 03:33 PM

It's good if your headgear upgrade to +20 ^^


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Posted 07 July 2015 - 04:04 PM

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Posted 07 July 2015 - 06:03 PM

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If i refine my hat in +9, this card gives +9 str or is only +3 (because reduce -6) ?

It is (n - 6) STR, where n is the upgrade level.

Suppose that the upgrade level of your hat is 9 and the Seyren Windsor card is compounded to upgraded hat, then the STR is +3.

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It's good if your headgear upgrade to +20 ^^

Indeed. STR + 14
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Posted 07 July 2015 - 06:10 PM

It's good if your headgear upgrade to +20 ^^

 

Indeed. STR + 14

 

I don't believe you. Prove it :3


Edited by DeadIntern, 07 July 2015 - 06:10 PM.

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Posted 07 July 2015 - 06:15 PM

Sorry I am noob, how is this card better than dark ping?let's say the headgear is refined at +12,the benefits will be str +6.

Is that any better than dark ping atk+ 10?

Sorry noob here.
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Posted 07 July 2015 - 06:27 PM

Sorry I am noob, how is this card better than dark ping?let's say the headgear is refined at +12,the benefits will be str +6.

Is that any better than dark ping atk+ 10?

Sorry noob here.

 

From irowiki:

 

ATK = StatusATK × 2 + WeaponATK + EquipATK + MasteryATK

 

WeaponATK = ( BaseWeaponATK + Variance + STRBonus + RefinementBonus ) × SizePenalty

 

STRBonus (melee weapons) = BaseWeaponATK × STR ÷ 200

 

STR will give (2xSTR) status atk and STR Bonus that will count towards your weapon atk. The STR Bonus depends on your Base Weapon Atk too. RTE (base atk: 160) for example, gives (160/200) ATK per STR pts. Hurricane Fury (base atk: 332) gets 1.6 ATK per STR pts.


Edited by DeadIntern, 07 July 2015 - 06:27 PM.

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#11 tamagotchi3890

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Posted 07 July 2015 - 06:31 PM

I don't believe you. Prove it :3

DEFINITION: 4358.png Seyren Windsor Card
STR - 6 and adds the STR equal to the compounded helmet's upgrade level.

f(n) := n - 6

where f(n) is STR and n is the upgrade level.


Suppose that the upgrade level of the headgear with the compounded Seyren Windsor card is 20, then the STR is +14.

Prove:
Given the definition and upgrade level:
f(n) := n - 6
n = 20

Solution:
f(20) = 20 - 6
f(20) = 14
Hence, the STR is +14. ∎
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Posted 07 July 2015 - 06:42 PM

^ haha, as in, I want to see a +20 hat with Seyren in game. Just kidding though. 


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Posted 07 July 2015 - 06:44 PM

:heh:

*free post*
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Posted 08 July 2015 - 05:56 AM

What is that variance in that weapon attack calculation?
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Posted 08 July 2015 - 07:26 AM

From irowiki:
 
 
 
 
STR will give (2xSTR) status atk and STR Bonus that will count towards your weapon atk. The STR Bonus depends on your Base Weapon Atk too. RTE (base atk: 160) for example, gives (160/200) ATK per STR pts. Hurricane Fury (base atk: 332) gets 1.6 ATK per STR pts.


based on hurricane fury then +12 seyren headgear gives +9.6 atk vs +10 from dark ping? dark ping still better?
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Posted 08 July 2015 - 07:37 AM

Ah there's the status atk too. So, the +6 STR would translate to +12 Status ATK and +9.6 Weapon ATK. Slightly better, I guess?


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Posted 08 July 2015 - 07:46 AM

good to know, thanks :3
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Posted 10 July 2015 - 09:54 AM

+12 something better lol


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Posted 10 July 2015 - 10:12 AM

DEFINITION: 4358.png Seyren Windsor Card
STR - 6 and adds the STR equal to the compounded helmet's upgrade level.

f(n) := n - 6
 

where f(n) is STR and n is the upgrade level.


Suppose that the upgrade level of the headgear with the compounded Seyren Windsor card is 20, then the STR is +14.

Prove:
Given the definition and upgrade level:
f(n) := n - 6
n = 20

Solution:
f(20) = 20 - 6
f(20) = 14
Hence, the STR is +14. ∎

 

 

 

That's not evidence, that's just math logic!


Edited by Quoc, 10 July 2015 - 10:12 AM.

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Posted 10 July 2015 - 05:36 PM

Would it be worth it to put the card in a +11 Isabella Red Ear? That would be +2 aspd and +10 str ^_^?


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Posted 10 July 2015 - 05:53 PM

Would it be worth it to put the card in a +11 Isabella Red Ear? That would be +2 aspd and +10 str ^_^?

 

are you asking if that's better than snake head or eddga doll? I don't expect it would be, but it may depend on your situation.


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