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#1 RogusBlack

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 04:49 PM

Hello

I'm new in this forum, and would like your help to solve some of my doubts.
I will have a Royal Guard, but with a build directed to PvM and MVP, 'cause I don't like PvP or WoE.
In my plans, my RG will be a lancer, with Over Brand as your main skill, and Reflect Damage as secondary. OB is good to the leveling, as reflect is, but I like more OB.
My doubts are these:

1: My build will be this (in lv150 and with bonus of RG lv50 job + acessories):
STR: 104+11=115
AGI:58+3=61
VIT: 101+7=108
INT: 31+9=40
DEX: 94+6=100
LUCK: 68+2=70

2: My skills will be these (main):
Over Brand: 5 (PVM/MVP?)
Spear Quicken: 10 (my main doubt)
Spear mastery: requisits
Cavalier mastery: 5
Defending aura: 5 (PVM/MVP
Shield Chain: 5 (PVM and 'cause I love this skill)
Reflect Damage: 5 (PvM/MVP
Banding: 1 (to help the party only)
Banishing point: 10 (PvM/MVP)
Sacrifice: 5 (PVM/MVP)
Force of Vanguard: 5
Rage Burst Atack: 1
Prestige: 5

First, I was wondering if the attributes are good for PVM/MVP.
Then, if the skills are good. My main doubt is Spear Quicken. Lv10 of this skill increases the damage of OB 15~20%, but coast 10 points of skills. LV 7~8 would be enough?
And finally, if I can go with this build MVP, alone and in pairs / trio / group. Alone in MVPs with low em medium level. Not the Satan or anything like it rsrs. If I can slain, for example, the Atroce. My hit/skills/resistence are enough?
My weapon will be a Pole Axe, initialy, with Zipper bear card.

I'm not milionary, but I have medium equipments. +4tidal shoes with martyr, +4wool scarf with raydric, +4Cross shields, +4meteo armor with Peco, +7 pole axe with zipper card, and various hats.

Thanks for any help, and and forgiveness for grammatical errors, English is not my default language.

Edited by RogusBlack, 14 February 2011 - 05:42 PM.

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 12:53 AM

Your skills are fine for what you want to do.
I would recommend moving your stats around a bit.

I don't see any reason to have more than 30 Luck on a RG.
I would reccommend more Agi to better compliment your skill build.

Everyone I know with overbrand has it at 10. I can't say for or against
a lower level because my RG is shield. I have spent little time testing these skills.

Anyways I hope this bit helps.
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Posted 15 February 2011 - 10:43 AM

First, I was wondering if the attributes are good for PVM/MVP.


They are fine. Stats don't matter nearly as much anymore, mainly since (for example) 1 str isn't the difference between +40 ATk or not (hitting key bonus's). I would lower your Vit to 100 total and get more dex/agi. If your MVPing you will be relying on VP more then OB since the damage over time is drastically better.

Then, if the skills are good. My main doubt is Spear Quicken. Lv10 of this skill increases the damage of OB 15~20%, but coast 10 points of skills. LV 7~8 would be enough?


Thats fine. You'll lose a little bit of damage, but free up vital skill points.

And finally, if I can go with this build MVP, alone and in pairs / trio / group. Alone in MVPs with low em medium level. Not the Satan or anything like it rsrs. If I can slain, for example, the Atroce. My hit/skills/resistence are enough?


I would look up a database to find out hit amounts for 100%. I think with a tad bit more dex and agi you should be fine. You may be able to lower str by 10 to get more dex/agi.

My only issues with your build is no inspiration. Inspiration is the best skill for MVPing. It will add a ton more hit (between the actual +hit, and +all stats which include more dex and luk and yes luk adds to hit). Inspiration is up in the air for debate mainly for WoE since you will either be manhole'd the durration or kill entire crappy guilds. As far as MVPing goes.... I would only MVP on a RG with Inspiration, especially if thats the main goal of the RG.

I don't see any reason to have more than 30 Luck on a RG.
I would reccommend more Agi to better compliment your skill build.


Depending on the amount of dex, luk can actually add more hit for status points then dex can (once dex gets really high). There are 2 other key reasons for luk, but unfortunately they don't fit into this thread. I will point them out anyways. First is status resistance (woe). Second is for EB. If you can do a 30k EB thats nice, but make it crit for a 42k EB and thats just sexy.


Everyone I know with overbrand has it at 10. I can't say for or against


I want OB level 10 O_O. Like I seriously want it because that has got to be so overpowered.... Sorry, but OB max level is 5, not 10 :huh:
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Posted 16 February 2011 - 08:48 AM

I want OB level 10 O_O. Like I seriously want it because that has got to be so overpowered.... Sorry, but OB max level is 5, not 10 :huh:


i think hes talking about spear quicken lvl 10?
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Posted 16 February 2011 - 09:14 AM

With that much Luk, that much Dex is not needed. I would put more points into Agi as well to maximize the DPS of Vanishing Point and PPA. The Int seems a little random as well.

My bases are:

100 Str
110 Agi
100 Vit
85 Dex
1 Int
10 Luk
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Posted 16 February 2011 - 11:46 AM

i think hes talking about spear quicken lvl 10?


Actually I think they meant Vanishing Point since 5 is a pre req and if your going to use it (which all offensive RG's should) then it should be at level 10.

Edit: and here is the table for luk vs dex for hit.

If I'm not mistaken, 3 LUK = 1 Hit, If your current stat is:
1. DEX 40 & LUK 1.
+1 DEX needs 5 stat points. On the other hand, 3 points of LUK need 6 points. put it to DEX.
2. DEX 41 & LUK 1.
+1 DEX needs 6 stat points. Also, 3 points of LUK need 6 points. At this point, it's up to you.

Bottom-line, if you value Hit and want to optimize stat points more than anything else, follow the data shown below(Note of the trend shown above).

Cost per Hit Analysis, please be reminded that 1 point of DEX = 3 points of LUK = 1 Hit:
1. 1 - 41 DEX < 1 - 11 LUK
2. 42 - 51 DEX = 1 - 11 LUK
3. 52 - 71 DEX < 12 - 21 LUK
4. 72 - 81 DEX = 12 - 21 LUK
5. 82 - 100 DEX < 22 - 31 LUK
6. 101 - 105 DEX > 32 - 41 LUK
7. 106 - 110 DEX > 42 - 51 LUK
8. 111 - 115 DEX > 52 - 61 LUK
9. 111 - 115 DEX = 62 - 71 LUK


Edited by Gn1ydnu, 16 February 2011 - 11:56 AM.

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#7 RogusBlack

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 06:44 PM

Thank you all for your help.

So, I will take ~100 Vit, with bonus, the strenght I will put 100 + bonus, and put these points in DEX, to have better hit.

The points in luck are to increase the damage and the hit (both multiples of 3, but closed in 70 to take the bonus of flee and perfect flee). I think that putting point in Luck I will increase hit and atk while, but I'm not convinced that this is the best option. This is a big doubt. I like that table, is very instructive.

The AGI I don't know. With Spear quicker lv8 I'll take ~181 aspd. Maybe I can increase the agi to take a ASPD near to 183~184. A value over this (184) is realy necessary?

Inpiration. This is the question heh. I think: this build is to leveling and MVP. When I get lv150/50, I will reset my skills, probably. Over Brand is good to leveling, but Inspiration is better to MVP. But now, I cannot take this skill.

INT. You are all right. I put this INT to increase my status resistence, and to increase the mana regenaration with potions, too. I haven't bilions of zennys to spend rsrs.

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 10:10 PM

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Only 1 thing. Worry about Inspiration last. There is no rush to get it since there are many other skills that will help you as a RG. I do believe that if your going for a PVM/MVP (more so on MVP aspect) Inspiration is worth it.
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Posted 16 February 2011 - 11:11 PM

Only 1 thing. Worry about Inspiration last. There is no rush to get it since there are many other skills that will help you as a RG. I do believe that if your going for a PVM/MVP (more so on MVP aspect) Inspiration is worth it.


If I wanted to MVP right away.. would you get Inspiration first, or would you recommend getting all the other skills first still before getting Inspiration?
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Posted 17 February 2011 - 11:21 PM

You need to get a minimum of job level 36 to MVP, generally. A crapload of those points will be on Inspiration and the rest for VP 10. Leveling will be a pain since job 36 will only give you reflect level 3 and no OB. If you can afford nueralizers then it's no problem. However, if your not a big cash shop spender (or don't have a lot of free zeny to buy from others) then you may be better off waiting to MVP.
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