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#1 to0n

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 08:55 PM

The following information is my exaggerated opinion.

About Myself:
I am a world class Destroyer. I placed 3rd in the very first naked PvP tournament, and chose not to enter the second one so that the others may have a chance. I developed many unique combos such as using rising arrow and then immediately holding Z, and such. I have played since closed beta of THQ and have remained as one of the few active Destroyers since then. My incredible stats in Ranked PvP are 4317-522 and in Practice PvP 267-65, all legit of course. In several EWs, I have managed to go 65-0 against relatively unknown lesser guilds. In short, I am awesome.

List of contents
1. Purpose in PvP
2. Skills
3. Set

Recent update: Reformatted the guide, made it simpler.

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 08:55 PM

1. Player versus Player

The meat of this guide, or tofu if you're a vegan.
1a. Tips, Tricks, and Exploitables

1. If they lagwalk Flash bang, buff Adrenaline and Guild Skill, wait a second, and use RPG-7 at the area where they disappeared.
2. Use shootdown often for extra damage. You can use it at the end of a combo, follow their roll, use gatling, and repeat your combo.
3. Cancel the default shooting animation by simply moving. Alternate moving to stay in position while shooting. Commonly referred to as x spamming.
4. If you want to move in Camouflage, hold one direction to prevent being revealed prematurely.
5. The more movespeed you have, the further your moonwalk skill will move you, making it more effective to use.
6. If you use carpet bombing near the wall in Labyrinth, it will appear on the right side of the screen. Avoid using it near the walls if that target area is not your intended target area.
7. If you're fast enough, x spam could be used as an escape.
More or possibly repeated tips from my previous guide
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1b. Intimate, one on one alone timesies.

General rules for 1v1 for Destroyers.

No holding AAS for extended periods of time.
No infinite relaunch, (AAS>homing missile>RPG-7 cycling).
Pots allowed (To allow MP recovery, negate N2).
My own limitations

Generally, I'll limit myself to 3 AAS shots to prevent Aerial Recovery. The number varies depending on the HP/Defense of the opponent.
I will try to avoid dealing the last blow with AAS, and to a lesser extent Gatling Gun.
I will always constantly try to fight, rather than wait for a certain 9 second skill cooldown.
I will not hide in my tank for 21 seconds.

I have many 1v1 videos listed on my youtube page.
CopyPaste from original guide, will maybe update later.
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1c. Group PvP

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2. Skills
I guess I didn't organize this very well. I already went over the skills in the previous section. Free writing, so don't mind me.

Necessary Skills and Why

Archer Tree

Rising Arrow 3/5:
Main launching skill. It is faster than RPG-7 and has a short cooldown. Level 3 or higher to launch multiple mobs in PvE.
Shoot Down 1/3 or 3/3:
Incredibly powerful if all arrows hit. Can be used to punish people who constantly jump as well. Hit box is very big. Level 1 for fast relaunches to chain into combos.
Rapid Step 5/5:
The faster you move, the easier it is to escape combos. You also roll faster, jump farther, and moonwalk farther.
Anti Air Shot 3/5:
Main filler damage skill in your combos. 3/5 or higher for PvE.
Marksman Tree

Gatling Rush 5/5:
Very wide vertical hit box. Great catching skill and good damage on multiple targets.
Auto Shot System 5/5:
In 1v1s, this would mainly be used to place before you get caught in a combo. In team games, it serves as a great damage dealer with teammates locking.
RPG-7 3/5:
Secondary launch skill, primary relaunch skill. Due to the fact that it does not hit upon cast, this skill requires you to time it to hit your opponent. This is advantageous when predicting your opponents movements and shooting lag walks, but also disadvantageous because it does not hit instantly and has a relatively long cast animation.
H.E. Grenades + Passive 8/10:
In a future patch, the cooldown for level 8+ grenades may be lowered. This will make this skill for usable. For now, I haven't touched it.
Specialist Tree

Focus 5/5:
Absolute 3% critical rate. (Not entirely sure)
Flash Bang 3/5 or 5/5:
Good debuff stats, but mainly used for the stun to lengthen combos.
Caused Bomber ?/5:
Lowers opponents stats and can be used as filler in between skills without much penalty.
Vulcan 300 1/5 or 5/5:
Great damage but cannot be utilize to its full potential in 1v1s. Used along with team locks.
Adrenaline 5/5:
Increases attack speed by 35%, which allows you to x spam. Should also slightly help your AAS speed.
Atropine 1/1:
Removes a single debuff.
Carpet Bombing + Passive 1/5;1/1:
Not that great for damage and would ruin team ground lock combos. Used primarily to save teammates by launching multiple people.
Destroyer Tree

N2 Ammunition 5/5:
Great debuff skill, lowers opponents MP in half and continuously burns 43 MP per second.
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3. Set
There are four different sets that may be used. The builds are Aim, Health, Evade, MSPD-, Critical Damage, Attack Speed, Evade,Aim-,Health-,Evade-, MSPD, Critical Damage, Movement Speed Ideally, the blizzard muffler back with 40 AGI, 20 HLTH, 8% EVADE should be used.

1. Lv. 60 Hero Bone (not yet released)

Hero Bone Helmet 55 AGI
Hero Bone Shoulders 60% MP Recovery
Hero Bone Top 35 HLTH
Hero Bone Bottom 500 Max MP
Hero Bone Arm 10% Evade
5 Set Bonus: 1000 MP, 60 HLTH, 20% AIMPremium Glove of Alexandre 50 AGI, 3% AIM
Premium Shoes of Kryos 40 AGI, 10% CD
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Replace Premium Shoes of Kryos for Hero Bone Shoes 18% MSPD
Replace Hero Bone Shoulders for Lalooms 12% AGI


Total Stats: 150 AGI, 95 HLTH, 10% EVADE, 23% AIM, 10% CD, 1500 MP, 60% MP Recovery
Total Soulcraft (excluding arms): 86 STAT, 54% EVADE
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Total Stats: 105 AGI, 12% AGI, 95 HLTH, 10% EVADE, 23% AIM, 18% MSPD, 1500 MP, 60% MP Recovery
Total Soulcraft (excluding arms): 83 STAT, 54% EVADE
[/list]Most overall stats, lowest possible damage.


2. Lv. 70 Glorious Rokoko (not yet released)

Glorious Rokoko Helmet
Glorious Rokoko Shoulders
Glorious Rokoko Top
Glorious Rokoko Gloves
Glorious Rokoko Bottom
Glorious Rokoko Shoes
Hero Bone Arm 10% Evade
6 Set Bonus: 45 AGI, 31% ASPD, 34% EVADE, 218% CD[/list]
Total Stats: 45 AGI, 31% ASPD, 10% EVADE, 218% CD
Total Soulcraft (excluding arms): 90 STAT, 54% EVADE
Highest damage, low aim, no movespeed.

3. Lv. 67 Rokoko

Rokoko Helmet
Rokoko Shoulders
Rokoko Top
Rokoko Gloves
Rokoko Bottom
Rokoko Shoes
Hero Bone Arm 10% Evade -or- Skeleton Bandage 6 AGI, 5 AIM
6 Set Bonus: 44 AGI, 37 MSPD, 20% AIM, 100% CD[/list]
Total Stats: 44 AGI, 37 MSPD,(10% EVADE/6AGI,5AIM, 20% AIM, 100% CD
Total Soulcraft (excluding arms): 90 STAT, 54% EVADE
Balanced stats.

3. Lv. 60

Heirloom Bone Helmet
Heirloom Bone Top
Heirloom Bone Gloves
Heirloom Bone Bottom
25% MSPDHero Bone Shoes 18% MSPD
Mutisha Shoulders 10% MSPD
Hero Bone Arm 10% Evade -or- Skeleton Bandage 6 AGI, 5 AIM

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Total Stats: 53% MSPD
Total Soulcraft (excluding arms): ~81 STAT, 52% EVADE
Move really fast!

4. More Sets with Optimized Stats
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Source: Maximized End Game Gear Guide By Midou

Edited by to0n, 07 April 2011 - 06:16 PM.

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 08:56 PM

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 09:07 PM

lol well i know im not a pf anymore because gren more fun and challenging good luck on guide hit me up for assistance if you want ill try to be helpful
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Posted 23 August 2010 - 09:12 PM

lol well i know im not a pf anymore because gren more fun and challenging good luck on guide hit me up for assistance if you want ill try to be helpful


Kudos to you! Any help/input would be appreciated. I'll continue working on this tomorrow.
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Posted 23 August 2010 - 11:25 PM

But seriously, why aren't you a Pathfinder?


good question indeed.
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 01:44 PM

its cause u is big pro pally~! kill pfs np np so why switch :lol:
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 09:28 AM

But seriously, why aren't you a Pathfinder?


Does pf have cool looking useless tank and the awesome skill vulcan 300 and gatling gun????????
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 09:55 AM

Does pf have cool looking useless tank and the awesome skill vulcan 300 and gatling gun????????


No but they have a book. Isn't that cool?!? xD

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 10:58 AM

I like your guide Sheol looks thought out and detailed,seems you also put alot of work into explanations i'm also interested in your build. +1

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 11:07 AM

3:2:1 Dark:Dark:Lalooms for evade too! And CP set for some evade + insane CD.
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Posted 29 August 2010 - 12:34 PM

You told me no one uses Lalooms anymore, QQ.



I like your guide Sheol looks thought out and detailed,seems you also put alot of work into explanations i'm also interested in your build. +1

Thanks!

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 12:37 PM

You told me no one uses Lalooms anymore, QQ.

I have a laloom pauldron that I plan to use in replacement for my 6th dark set piece.

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 03:15 PM

But seriously, why aren't you a Pathfinder?


'cause your gren stole my virginity

CP Set (Level 54): AGI 35 ASPD 27% DODGE 27% CD 129%


Do you mean 64 Howitzer or 57 Gren set o.o

Oh maybe include the 67 light set stats
2 items : AGI +44
3 items : Movement speed +37%
5 items : CD +100%
6 items : ACC +20%
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Posted 29 August 2010 - 03:27 PM

'cause your gren stole my virginity



Do you mean 64 Howitzer or 57 Gren set o.o

Oh maybe include the 67 light set stats
2 items : AGI +44
3 items : Movement speed +37%
5 items : CD +100%
6 items : ACC +20%


Oh oops, yeah I meant 57. Thanks Sharp!

And wow, 33 to 44? :blink:

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 06:43 AM

'cause your gren stole my virginity



Do you mean 64 Howitzer or 57 Gren set o.o

Oh maybe include the 67 light set stats
2 items : AGI +44
3 items : Movement speed +37%
5 items : CD +100%
6 items : ACC +20%

Hmm my chunky,def bone or the speed and crit light set so it's the choice of defense or power,lol this is going to be hard.

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 07:09 AM

Since you don't enchant your armor, just get the new set.
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Posted 30 August 2010 - 07:36 AM

^ i agree with this get the new 1 and sell me ur old one cuz im sooo cuddly and squishy and yea ive been eyeing ur bd set O3O.........ill be ur slave 4eva
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Posted 30 August 2010 - 01:41 PM

Since you don't enchant your armor, just get the new set.

I got Back,Chest and Helm (with max health) +10 before the server shut the rest is still +4 lol i'm still not sure though.
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Posted 30 August 2010 - 01:51 PM

You probably didn't break 3.5k def, so just use the new set anyways. I wouldn't stick with it unless you break 5k, which is pretty much full special, +14 back, +10 everything else.
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Posted 30 August 2010 - 01:54 PM

You probably didn't break 3.5k def, so just use the new set anyways. I wouldn't stick with it unless you break 5k, which is pretty much full special, +14 back, +10 everything else.

Meh alright i'll give it a look into,it'll probably be a good idea since I can hoard a mess load of gold for the soon to be rare old bone.
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Posted 30 August 2010 - 01:57 PM

how much gold we talking here for each O3O
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Posted 30 August 2010 - 02:25 PM

how much gold we talking here for each O3O

It'll be extinct when i'm selling it SO I'M TALKING LIKE 2.5KG EACH.
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Posted 30 August 2010 - 02:48 PM

can do if they make cash items tradable sell sum stuff other than that i will have to work for gold ~~
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Posted 30 August 2010 - 03:00 PM

This isn't a market thread.
I'd recommend the new light sets anyway, which would be cheaper than 2.5k a piece.

However, if you do choose to use bone, then you should plan on +14-15ing the back and +10ing or higher the rest.

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