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#1 GuardianTK

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 02:16 PM

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Seriously, people will always find a way to bypass a system where you're not supposed to vend/chat next/near an NPC!

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It may not be that bad right now, but I see more and more people abusing methods to bypass the "No Chat/Vend Zones." I even saw them practicing it on the Kafra Shop NPC's on the 2nd floor of Eden Group!

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 02:17 PM

There are several ways to do this.
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 02:20 PM

Yeah, it's pretty inconsiderate when you PURPOSELY find away to bypass the system. The 3x3 area is not that big of a deal; there are plenty of spaces in Eden. When you put a chat in front of an NPC, you're only pissing people off. Especially now that the GMs have implemented a safe zone, and you're going out of your way to get around it. :)
I'm just going to report anyone I see doing it. :)
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 02:22 PM

lets start to ban these people?
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 02:27 PM

It took me 20 minutes to get my TI today because people were abusing this, they need to be banned.
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 02:29 PM

I agree with :)
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 02:44 PM

I agree. This is just getting out of hand...
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 03:15 PM

They should put all the chat and vends on 2nd floor only! All the npc`s should be moved on the first floor!
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 04:58 PM

The easy solution seen elsewhere is also having a cell distance limit for joining a chat.
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 05:08 PM

If someone vends in the danger zone, they should get the same treatment as if they were a bot. No warning shots. Word will get around, people know better.
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 05:11 PM

They should put all the chat and vends on 2nd floor only! All the npc`s should be moved on the first floor!

no, they should vend only in towns...thats what the fricken huge space is for... :)
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 05:56 PM

f11 is your friend...
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 06:33 PM

No thanks. Chat rooms are fine, much better than people just text spamming eden.

N> Party for X
N> Party for X
N> Party for X
N> Party for X
N> Party for X
N> Party for X
N> Party for X
invyte me 2 pt plz!! pls!!

R> AB/Wiz for X
R> AB/Wiz for X
R> AB/Wiz for X
R> AB/Wiz for X
R> AB/Wiz for X

Chats make it much easier to get your message up without have to continuously spam.
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 06:51 PM

No thanks. Chat rooms are fine, much better than people just text spamming eden.

N> Party for X
N> Party for X
N> Party for X
N> Party for X
N> Party for X
N> Party for X
N> Party for X
invyte me 2 pt plz!! pls!!

R> AB/Wiz for X
R> AB/Wiz for X
R> AB/Wiz for X
R> AB/Wiz for X
R> AB/Wiz for X

Chats make it much easier to get your message up without have to continuously spam.

That's what the booking system is for.
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 06:54 PM

That's what the booking system is for.

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 07:31 PM

People keep saying you can't block vend in Eden because you'd have to block all skills too.
Well I say why the hell not block all skills? The only useful skill in Eden is Warp Portal and you can handle that crap in town.
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 07:43 PM

That's what the booking system is for.


You can't put up comments in a booking system, can you? So I can't put up a msg saying something like "N>warlock, gwing thor" or "Need 2ABs, 1 aoe" or "R>X [2spots] gwing"

I don't even pay attention to the booking system, its too limited. Much easier to just go in eden, get the quest, put up chat asking for party/recruiting, then use the guy to warp. All in one convenient place. That is the location where people get the quest, so it makes sense to form parties there also since that is where you find people doing the quest.

I don't know what the issue with chats/vends is, I've never had a problem clicking the npc.

If chats get disabled then I'm just going to sit in Eden and spam my needs. When multiple people are doing that it is going to get annoying fast.

Isn't that why people hangout on floor 1 of eden anyway? Quests and badges.
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 08:29 PM

You can't put up comments in a booking system, can you? So I can't put up a msg saying something like "N>warlock, gwing thor" or "Need 2ABs, 1 aoe" or "R>X [2spots] gwing"

I don't even pay attention to the booking system, its too limited. Much easier to just go in eden, get the quest, put up chat asking for party/recruiting, then use the guy to warp. All in one convenient place. That is the location where people get the quest, so it makes sense to form parties there also since that is where you find people doing the quest.

I don't know what the issue with chats/vends is, I've never had a problem clicking the npc.

If chats get disabled then I'm just going to sit in Eden and spam my needs. When multiple people are doing that it is going to get annoying fast.

Isn't that why people hangout on floor 1 of eden anyway? Quests and badges.

Fair enough. So would you suggest people who abuse methods to set up chats/vends next to NPC's be banned temporarily? I'd rather the GM's don't need to resort to that. That seems a bit too harsh in my opinion. Better to prevent such abuse by allowing no room for it to be abused by disabling chats/vends than to ban people for it.

If anything, why not just set up the party chat at the turn in area?

You must be new, because before the balance patches came in people were setting up chats/vends literally in front of all of the Eden Group NPC's. Gramps was no exception. It got so bad to the point where the entire NPC was unclickable, because those chats/vends were practically layered and covering the NPC. People want attention, therefore they will do what's necessary to get attention by going to a place where it stands out. The only way to keep the NPC areas clean was to have Shadow Chasers go and relocate them by using Manhole, while suffering threats of "I'm going to report you for moving me with Manhole" messages from time to time.
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 08:52 PM

vend : once the skill is used makes player unable to move, if the player is currently moving cancel skill, if players are within 3x3 of npc cancel skill or even better make them disconnect (this shouldn't be hard, there is already something that makes you dc if moved when chatting to npc).

char : same as above. bonus - if the original starter of chat leaves, end chat.

there add those rules into the script.
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 09:18 PM

Make the npc auto cast sheltering bliss every 10s

This makes the npc more prominent and also pushes people aside

Another way is auto cast magnum break so people will be damaged for trying to break the rules

Please only do it for npcs like gramps or event npcs
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 10:26 PM

Make the npc auto cast sheltering bliss every 10s

This makes the npc more prominent and also pushes people aside

Another way is auto cast magnum break so people will be damaged for trying to break the rules

Please only do it for npcs like gramps or event npcs

That'd be hilarious if it were possible.
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 11:10 PM

Make the npc auto cast sheltering bliss every 10s

This makes the npc more prominent and also pushes people aside

Another way is auto cast magnum break so people will be damaged for trying to break the rules

Please only do it for npcs like gramps or event npcs


I prefer auto cast AoE Gfist. That way nobody is gonna crowd Eden ever.
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Posted 30 December 2011 - 01:13 AM

I say make the bypass a bannable offense. Repeat offenders get perma ban.
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Posted 31 December 2011 - 01:49 PM

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Had to Manhole some of them away from the NPC, but...


Exactly how many "Party Recruiting" chats do you see here in this screenshot compared to "S/B>" chats?
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Posted 31 December 2011 - 02:14 PM

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Had to Manhole some of them away from the NPC, but...


Exactly how many "Party Recruiting" chats do you see here in this screenshot compared to "S/B>" chats?


so pretty :thumb: I'm gonna cry, anytie i see those npcs lately is when there is a maint going on or a mass disconnect from map and i login back fast enought
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